So, you think Gemini is just a search engine?

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Re: So, you think Gemini is just a search engine?

Postby sarge » Mon Nov 03, 2025 6:35 am

I'm not going to comment further on nerd-worship postings regarding AI other than to drive this stake. With AI doing the brainwork (albeit imperfectly), what is the point of a hobby at all? No risk, no talent, no learning, no problem solving, no accomplishment.

Already what we have here an example of being so lacking in curiosity, so devoid of a sense of adventure, and so adverse to possible failure that one runs to suckle the artificial bosom over instructions to a simple boxcar kit, instructions that a guy in the 1960s with a few tools and a kitchen table would have had no issues with for the first one he tackled, and never read them again for any he might build after because he actually learned something.

It's just a boxcar kit. Go ahead. Take a chance. Live a little.

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Re: So, you think Gemini is just a search engine?

Postby robert. » Mon Nov 03, 2025 2:34 pm

How long till some guy loses everything to an AI robot in divorce court? Alright i’ll stop
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Re: So, you think Gemini is just a search engine?

Postby webenda » Mon Nov 03, 2025 5:44 pm

healey36 wrote:I find it interesting, the headlong flight to AI, a tech that will likely kill all of us, either directly or indirectly.

Quote from Dean McLaughlin's epigraph at the start of HAWK AMONG THE SPARROWS.
"When we look at the spectacle of weapons growing ever bigger and more
effective and fearsome, it is well to remember that effectiveness and
fearsomeness can be defined only in terms of a historical context."

I (not we, considering comments made so far) might ask Gemini, "Could AI Really Kill Off Humans?"
AI is purely as a tool that lacks human drives, desires, or the instinct for self-preservation. In this view, the risk lies with the humans who design and deploy the AI, not the technology itself.

Bravo, Gemini AI.
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Re: So, you think Gemini is just a search engine?

Postby webenda » Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:06 pm

healey36 wrote:I find it interesting, the headlong flight to AI, a tech that will likely kill all of us, either directly or indirectly.

Quote from Dean McLaughlin's epigraph at the start of HAWK AMONG THE SPARROWS.
"When we look at the spectacle of weapons growing ever bigger and more
effective and fearsome, it is well to remember that effectiveness and
fearsomeness can be defined only in terms of a historical context."

I (not we, considering comments made so far) might ask Gemini, "Could AI Really Kill Off Humans?"

AI is purely a tool that lacks human drives, desires, or the instinct for self-preservation. In this view, the risk lies with the humans who design and deploy the AI, not the technology itself.
--Gemini

Bravo, Gemini.
----Wayne----

Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
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Re: So, you think Gemini is just a search engine?

Postby HONDO74 » Tue Nov 04, 2025 2:08 am

robert. wrote:How long till some guy loses everything to an AI robot in divorce court? Alright i’ll stop


You are not far off with that Robert.

Article on the BBC today.
Shein bans all sex dolls after outrage over childlike products
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cddrg70pj1mo

And
Ask ChatGPT whether AI will replace humans in the customer service industry, and it will offer a diplomatic answer, the summary of which is "they will work side by side".

Humans though, are not so optimistic.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz913ylq3k3o

AND
ChatGPT tool could be abused by scammers and hackers
A ChatGPT feature allowing users to easily build their own artificial-intelligence assistants can be used to create tools for cyber-crime, a BBC News investigation has revealed.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67614065

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Re: So, you think Gemini is just a search engine?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:41 am

HONDO74 wrote:ChatGPT tool could be abused by scammers and hackers


Think that's already being done......
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Re: So, you think Gemini is just a search engine?

Postby G3750 » Sun Nov 09, 2025 10:31 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
robert. wrote:A problem with AI is. It’s not smart. AI will use wrong or fake answers to gather info. By scanning the internet
If we started to say “ use 40LBS 1,2,3 blocks to square up you boxcar projects”. AI would start telling people “ use 40lbs 1,2,3 blocks”


Only 1/2 of the problem -- the users of AI stop thinking and just believe the AI.


The above is the REAL and the scariest problem. Critical thinking is already in very short supply in this world; another readily available crutch isn’t going to help.

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Re: So, you think Gemini is just a search engine?

Postby HONDO74 » Sun Nov 09, 2025 12:31 pm

'A predator in your home': Mothers say chatbots encouraged their sons to kill themselves
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce3xgwyywe4o

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Re: So, you think Gemini is just a search engine?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Nov 09, 2025 3:46 pm

HONDO74 wrote:'A predator in your home': Mothers say chatbots encouraged their sons to kill themselves


And the parents were where? I see all these news stories about kids running amok, doing stupid stuff, and then I see the parents complaining that some should be responsible..... I thought that was what parents were supposed to be - responsible..... Oh, another chapter in the decline and fall....
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Re: So, you think Gemini is just a search engine?

Postby jlong » Thu Nov 13, 2025 5:36 pm

AI is advanced logic taken to a new level. The artificial intelligence hype is 2000 proof bullshit.
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Re: So, you think Gemini is just a search engine?

Postby jlong » Thu Nov 13, 2025 5:42 pm

sarge wrote:Wayne, I think you'd learn more if you stopped trying to sell us on this shit and spent that time building the boxcar kit, instead.


Just don't get him going on electric cars.
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Re: So, you think Gemini is just a search engine?

Postby HONDO74 » Fri Nov 14, 2025 3:39 pm

People can't tell AI-generated music from real thing anymore, survey shows
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ai-generat ... cant-tell/
It's become nearly impossible for people to tell the difference between music generated by artificial intelligence and that created by humans, according to a survey released Wednesday.

Here is a good example.

This is a number one country song.
However the BREAKING RUST person does not exist. AI generated

Breaking Rust - Walk My Walk ( Official Lyric Video )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx3OirkhX0g

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Re: So, you think Gemini is just a search engine?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Nov 14, 2025 6:05 pm

HONDO74 wrote:People can't tell AI-generated music from real thing anymore


Which says a lot about a lot of people.......and the music that they listen to and think is any good.

Hit music is very formulaic; it's going to be very susceptible to AI generation.
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Re: So, you think Gemini is just a search engine?

Postby HONDO74 » Fri Nov 14, 2025 7:59 pm

Inside the $40,000 a year school where AI shapes every lesson, without teachers
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alpha-scho ... 00-10aaa3a

Austin, Texas — Fourth and fifth graders at Alpha School in Austin, Texas, aren't just learning — they're pioneering education's new frontier. Every click and every keystroke is guided by artificial intelligence.

Students spend only two hours in the morning on science, math and reading, working at their own speed using personalized, AI-driven software.

Adults in the classroom are called guides, not teachers, and earn six-figure salaries. Their job is to encourage and motivate.

When asked if an algorithm replaces the expertise of a teacher, guide Luke Phillips said, "I don't think it's replacing, I think it's just working in tandem."

Afternoons at the school are different. Students tackle projects, learn financial literacy and public speaking — life skills that founder MacKenzie Price says are invaluable.

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Re: So, you think Gemini is just a search engine?

Postby robert. » Fri Nov 14, 2025 9:00 pm

Not one person here would want their kid in public schools today.
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