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Re: Statements

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:38 pm

Another Statement...
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Re: Statements

Postby chuck » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:08 pm

From the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles.


Mexican man: It is always the same.In a revolution, it is the people who suffer.

Indy: But it's you we're fighting for.General Villa says...

Mexican man: General Villa?? Listen, years ago I rode with Juarez against Emperor Maximilian. I lost many chickens but I thought it was worth it to be free. When Porfirio became President, I supported him - but he stole my chickens. Then came Huerta and he stole my chickens. Then it was Carranza's term, and he took my chickens too. Now Pancho Villa has come to liberate me and the first thing he does is steal my chickens.

Indy: But an army needs food.He wants to help you.

Mexican man: Help me...help me? So does Carranza and all the others. What makes one different from the other? My chickens don't know. All over the world revolutions come and go. Presidents rise and fall. They all steal your chickens. The only thing to change is the name of the man who takes them.


There is a great irony in that the problems that the Russian people have suffered are constant irregardless of who was in charge, be it the Czar (as pictured), the Communists that replaced him, or whomever/whatever came after that. The core problems have been (and probably always will be) the bureaucracy that actually runs the place. An odd counterpoint to this is Italy where the government falls about once a year and the country manages to soldier on in spite of this. Is Italy's bureaucracy somehow better or is it just irrelevant?
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Re: Statements

Postby HONDO74 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:07 am

bureaucracy explained with Cows
SOCIALISM
You have 2 cows.
You give one to your neighbour.

COMMUNISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and gives you some milk.

FASCISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and sells you some milk.

NAZISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and shoots you.

BUREAUCRATISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both, shoots one, milks the other, and then throws the milk away...

TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell one and buy a bull.
Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows.
You sell them and retire on the income

SURREALISM
You have two giraffes.
The government requires you to take harmonica lessons

AN AMERICAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You sell one, and force the other to produce the milk of four cows.
Later, you hire a consultant to analyse why the cow has dropped dead.

ENRON VENTURE CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt/equity swap with an associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax exemption for five cows.
The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to a Cayman Island Company secretly owned by the majority shareholder who sells the rights to all seven cows back to your listed company.
The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more.
You sell one cow to buy a new president of the United States , leaving you with nine cows.
No balance sheet provided with the release.
The public then buys your bull.

A FRENCH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You go on strike, organise a riot, and block the roads, because you want three cows.

A JAPANESE CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk.
You then create a clever cow cartoon image called 'Cowkimon' and market it worldwide.

A GERMAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You re-engineer them so they live for 100 years, eat once a month, and milk themselves.

AN ITALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows, but you don't know where they are.
You decide to have lunch.

A RUSSIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You count them and learn you have five cows.
You count them again and learn you have 42 cows.
You count them again and learn you have 2 cows.
You stop counting cows and open another bottle of vodka.

A SWISS CORPORATION
You have 5000 cows. None of them belong to you.
You charge the owners for storing them.

A CHINESE CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You have 300 people milking them.
You claim that you have full employment, and high bovine productivity.
You arrest the newsman who reported the real situation.

AN INDIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You worship them.

A BRITISH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
Both are mad.

AN IRAQI CORPORATION
Everyone thinks you have lots of cows.
You tell them that you have none.
No-one believes you, so they bomb the **** out of you and invade your country.
You still have no cows, but at least now you are part of a Democracy...

AN AUSTRALIAN CORPORATION (This works for me.)
You have two cows.
Business seems pretty good.
You close the office and go for a few beers to celebrate

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Re: Statements

Postby webenda » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:02 am

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS:
You are associated with (the concept of "ownership" is a symbol of the phallocentric, warmongering, intolerant past) two differently-aged (but no less valuable to society) bovines of nonspecified gender.
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Re: Statements

Postby healey36 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:13 am

HONDO74 wrote:bureaucracy explained with Cows

Well done...a good piece to hang onto for posterity.

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Re: Statements

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:52 am

healey36 wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:bureaucracy explained with Cows

Well done...a good piece to hang onto for posterity.

Loved it! Love the conversation. The variety of diverse experiences and intelligence which has been expressed through replies, to date, is very refreshing and quite my purpose in my hopes for this thread. Really, really nice.

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Re: Statements

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:55 am

bureaucracy explained with Cows


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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hopes that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: Statements

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:07 am

Statement:
Let me offer a more thorough reply to Roy's inquiry about why I also posted a photo of Prince Reza separately:

To me, as an experienced teacher, if I had him in a classroom, I would be paying attention to his expression. I see eyes and a whole being filled with who he sees himself as being, and who he was for his whole family. Also, I can see in his eyes and physical profile that he was conscious of where he was (supposed to be) headed in life, to a place filled with devotion to his family and country, which was a truth for him.

That is the Statement I saw and found to be profoundly evident in the portrait I thought it appropriate to share on a thread with such a title as this one. I was convinced some of you would see it, too, and comment.
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Re: Statements

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:50 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:..............I see eyes and a whole being filled with who he sees himself as being, and who he was for his whole family. Also, I can see in his eyes and physical profile that he was conscious of where he was (supposed to be) headed in life, to a place filled with devotion to his family and country, which was a truth for him.


Your optimism and positive thought goblet overflows......
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Re: Statements

Postby HONDO74 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:02 am

Revealed: How President Carter supported the Iranian Revolution
New information shows how Khomeini fooled Carter into helping him overthrow US ally, while deceiving US public.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/213292

New information has come to light, showing how former US President Jimmy Carter blindly accepted false promises and helped Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini carry out the Iranian Revolution.

From 1941 to 1979, Iran was ruled by Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, better known as the Shah (meaning "king"). Pahlavi's modernization and anti-Communist policies won the backing of many Western countries, which saw oil-rich Iran as a valuable ally in a tumultuous region. At the same time, though, his secularism and suppression of political opponents left him strongly disliked domestically.

Pahlavi's regime was ultimately overthrown in the 1979 revolution, led by Ayatollah Sayyid Ruhollah Mūsavi Khomeini.

The BBC now reports that Khomeini had made several overtures to US presidents, asking them to encourage the Iranian military to stand down and allow the uprising to succeed. In exchange, he promised to continue the warm relationship between the two countries.

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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:45 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:..............I see eyes and a whole being filled with who he sees himself as being, and who he was for his whole family. Also, I can see in his eyes and physical profile that he was conscious of where he was (supposed to be) headed in life, to a place filled with devotion to his family and country, which was a truth for him.


Your optimism and positive thought goblet overflows......

You are very kind to say that, Rufus (I realize I am being optimistic in saying that. :mrgreen: ). Thank You. Children (which for me includes teenagers) do make me smile and feel optimistic, especially when they are happy too. :D
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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:50 am

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Postby chuck » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:58 pm

Totally creepy. Did they need the space for something else? They were nuns and then they were dead nuns?

BTW, two cows won't produce milk for very long unless you have access to a bull or someone that has access to bull semen.

BTBW you forgot about the price supports/subsidies which completely torque the whole supply/demand equation for various insane rationales (aka not just limited to US/"capitalism"). Basically it's not just Indian's that seem to worship/consider cows (and their by products) sacred!
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Postby Roy » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:20 pm

I remember my father saying he had to do some sort of handkerchief dance, on the event of the Shah's firstborn son.
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Re: Statements

Postby webenda » Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:09 pm

chuck wrote:Totally creepy. Did they need the space for something else? They were nuns and then they were dead nuns?

In 1936 Fascist General Franco spearheaded a rebellion against the leftist republican government in Madrid. The uprising in Spain was blessed by the Catholic Church as if it were a holy crusade. The Republicans dragged dead priests and nuns out of their crypts at a convent in Barcelona to show disrespect for the Catholic church taking sides with Franco.

Religious leaders taking sides in the politics of the world is specifically addressed in James 4:4

Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God?
Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
James 4:4 King James Version (KJV)

Franco won but being on the winning side was not all that great for the church. Franco only allowed clergy into the country with his approval. When the Pope sent some bishops to "help" with church affairs in Spain, Franco built a prison just for the "unauthorized" priests.
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