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Re: Speaking of North Korea...

Postby HONDO74 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:54 pm

I brought this one back to the top because it is in the news again. I am not sure what has come about because it depends on what is being said by the media that one can believe.

I still don't trust Kim, but who knows maybe he will follow through and come around to joining the rest of the world. ??

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Re: Speaking of North Korea...

Postby up148 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:27 am

My only takeaway is: Trump did something he said he would do. He is one of a few presidents who have gone to NK. The Dems and PBS are lambasting him for not doing more.

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Re: Speaking of North Korea...

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:34 am

up148 wrote:My only takeaway is: Trump did something he said he would do. He is one of a few presidents who have gone to NK. The Dems and PBS are lambasting him for not doing more.


Ok, he did not go to NK. He went to Singapore - he is the 1st and only President to meet with a leader of NK. And, that's a very good achievement.

I don't know what if anything else this really means to the US. It's an agreement with no timetable and no verification from a country that has reneged on every agreement that it's made. I think it's almost exactly been 25 years since NK agreed to not pursue nuclear power and that worked out really well, too. I have to wonder if Mattes and the Pentagon had any awareness of their exercises being put on the table in this agreement. However, NK has gotten quite a lot out of this meeting - legitimization on a world stage.
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Re: Speaking of North Korea...

Postby up148 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:39 am

Ok, he did not go to NK. He went to Singapore - he is the 1st and only President to meet with a leader of NK. And, that's a very good achievement.


Sorry, absolutely correct and my bad. I must have still been lightheaded from laughing at your other post. How's that for covering up a stupid mistake? :lol: :lol: >

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Re: Speaking of North Korea...

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:51 am

up148 wrote:
Ok, he did not go to NK. He went to Singapore - he is the 1st and only President to meet with a leader of NK. And, that's a very good achievement.


Sorry, absolutely correct and my bad. I must have still been lightheaded from laughing at your other post. How's that for covering up a stupid mistake? :lol: :lol: >


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Re: Speaking of North Korea...

Postby Mitch » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:50 pm

Significant if Un pays any attention. I'm of the belief that Un got a little education about jerking the big dogs' chain with the rhetoric and shootin' those missles over Japan when it was learned that 3 Carrier Battle Groups were on the way to the South China Sea. He had to have seen what happened in Syria when Assad crossed the line with poison gas. His main thing is he wants to stay in power, but I wish the Prez had lowered the time line to significant reduction, like to the end of the year, and not to the end of Trump's term. Still, it was history in the making. If they can negotiate and then verify, it's all good. As for the War Games, the regular training will continue between US and ROK units, only the war games twice a year went off the table, and BTW, that's not cut in stone.
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Re: Speaking of North Korea...

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:33 pm

I find the "relationship" (5 visits so far?) between Dennis Rodman and the NK leader to be intriguing. I am surprised the Media hasn't made more of it, or paid more attention to it. Yet, perhaps, what we have been told is more than enough, to date. Seeing Mr. Rodman get emotionally moved yesterday, in the News, made me wonder even further, in particular, about his motivation and Jong-Un's interest.
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Re: Speaking of North Korea...

Postby HONDO74 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:45 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:I find the "relationship" (5 visits so far?) between Dennis Rodman and the NK leader to be intriguing. I am surprised the Media hasn't made more of it, or paid more attention to it. Yet, perhaps, what we have been told is more than enough, to date. Seeing Mr. Rodman get emotionally moved yesterday, in the News, made me wonder even further, in particular, about his motivation and Jong-Un's interest.


Mr Rodman has stated that he and Trump are good friends and have been for quite some time. That doesn't sit to well with the liberal media. It does appear that Kim Jong-un likes Mr Rodman along with all the media attention he is getting. Maybe Kim will invite Rodman back and play some more basketball. Maybe Rodman can take all the NBA players that won't go to the White House with him. :wink: :mrgreen:

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Re: Speaking of North Korea...

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:19 pm

HONDO74 wrote:This meeting that took place is just one baby step. There is a long way to go.


Yes, a very long way.....
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Re: Speaking of North Korea...

Postby robert. » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:27 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:This meeting that took place is just one baby step. There is a long way to go.


Yes, a very long way.....

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Re: Speaking of North Korea...

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:30 pm

robert. wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:This meeting that took place is just one baby step. There is a long way to go.


Yes, a very long way.....

A journey of a 1000 miles starts with the first step. Now for the spiritual side of this forum. The lord gave the king an ability to change his heart with his own hand.


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Re: Speaking of North Korea...

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:33 pm

Maybe that single hand is pointed heavenward in prayer.

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Re: Speaking of North Korea...

Postby rogruth » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:46 pm

Mention was made earlier of the U.S. pulling out of joint military exercises with South Korea.
Also remember that if the president gets riled he does/has change his mind.
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Re: Speaking of North Korea...

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:08 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Maybe that single hand is pointed heavenward in prayer.


I suspect it is giving up the finger accompanied by peals of derisive laughter due to the never ending ability of humanity to frell things up.....
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Re: Speaking of North Korea...

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:25 am

Mitch wrote:Significant if Un pays any attention. I'm of the belief that Un got a little education about jerking the big dogs' chain with the rhetoric and shootin' those missles over Japan when it was learned that 3 Carrier Battle Groups were on the way to the South China Sea. He had to have seen what happened in Syria when Assad crossed the line with poison gas. His main thing is he wants to stay in power, but I wish the Prez had lowered the time line to significant reduction, like to the end of the year, and not to the end of Trump's term. Still, it was history in the making. If they can negotiate and then verify, it's all good. As for the War Games, the regular training will continue between US and ROK units, only the war games twice a year went off the table, and BTW, that's not cut in stone.

An interesting perspective. Mitch. I'll keep it in mind as we continue to follow the proceedings.
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