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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:31 am

Now here's scene to be modeled..............

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:03 am

The Mapleton Cornet Band

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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby rogruth » Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:35 am

Notice that drum section. Just have to be different.
Got to have a piccolo. You can hear a piccolo.
Is that the leader hiding in the back or just somebody who wants to be in the picture?

At the time of this photo almost every town in the country had a band.

Very nice.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:16 am

rogruth wrote:Notice that drum section. Just have to be different.


A condition consistent through the ages...

Got to have a piccolo. You can hear a piccolo.


Yes, but interesting to me to find one in a cornet band.

Is that the leader hiding in the back or just somebody who wants to be in the picture?


I hope so or John Brown has risen from the grave.............

At the time of this photo almost every town in the country had a band.

Very nice.


Indeed and I thought it one you would appreciate - all these little towns and villages...........had real live music!
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Postby rogruth » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:34 am

I have always wondered about the use of piccolo in small town cornet/brass bands.
Have never heard a satisfactory answer. Usually the claim is it added the high notes.
It would also be pitched in D-flat. Another instrument whose reason for existence is unknown.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:09 am

rogruth wrote:... the high notes.


Yes. Piercing.... Yet, there were also higher pitched "soprano" cornets -- lack of availability and ability, maybe. Good piccolo players though are not all that common either.
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Agreed.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby J. S. Bach » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:00 pm

rogruth wrote: ...snip... Another instrument whose reason for existence is unknown.

For use in Sousa's "Stars and Stripes Forever"?

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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby rogruth » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:17 pm

J. S. Bach wrote:
rogruth wrote: ...snip... Another instrument whose reason for existence is unknown.

For use in Sousa's "Stars and Stripes Forever"?

Of course but why pitched in D flat?
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby J. S. Bach » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:32 pm

rogruth wrote:Of course but why pitched in D flat?

I am not a musician, only a music listener so I can not answer that. And that begs the question: What should the piccolo be pitched at for Stars & Stripes? Note that it is one of my top three favorite pieces of music; especially when played all-out on a great multi-manual pipe organ.

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Postby rogruth » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:58 pm

Dave,

It really makes no difference.
Today D-flat picolos are special order.Most are in C now the same as flutes
This gets into transposition [changing keys for instruments] and can get
complicated.
Most trumpets were built in B-flat but today most symphonic trumpet players
use in C. French horn is the worst. They were built in many keys and the parts
were written in even more
Tubas are a mess. In order from smallest to largest the most common are:
B-flat tenor, F bass, E-flat bass, CC contrabass, BB-flat contrabass.
This is not all and there are exceptions to everything.

Most piccolo players [piccoloists just don't make it] that I have known,
and that is not a small number, say that the part for "The Stars and Stripes
Forever" is easier to play on a D-flat instrument.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

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rogruth wrote:French horn is the worst. They were built in many keys.....


Mine was in F........
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Tom Dempsey » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:08 pm

My first year in band I was assigned the E Flat French Horn. When I got home from school that day, my mother asked what I was playing and I replied "Ebb Horn". The music didn't get any better.

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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:18 pm

Tom Dempsey wrote:My first year in band I was assigned the E Flat French Horn. When I got home from school that day, my mother asked what I was playing and I replied "Ebb Horn". The music didn't get any better.


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