Some more trolleys....C&G, CG&W, H&F, and others....

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Re: Some more trolleys....C&G, CG&W, H&F, and others....

Postby Tony-h » Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:01 am

Re the vent. Overhead powered cars used resistance heaters under some of the seats to heat the car. Power was unlimited for heating and lighting purposes. Now, in this case, power availability was necessarily limited by the battery capacity. Heating power requirements in a deep winter might have equaled the traction power in some cases. In light if this my vote goes to a wood or coal powered heating stove, maybe thermosyphon hot water, with radiators along the sides of the seats. Note the window arrangements. None are frosted over indicating a separate loo compartment. Unless the throne was out in the open? Naw! Only long distance interurban cars had toilets, not city cars like this one. Passengers just had to hold it for the less than 30 minute trip.

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Re: Some more trolleys....C&G, CG&W, H&F, and others....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:09 am

Tony-h wrote:Note the window arrangements. None are frosted over indicating a separate loo compartment. Unless the throne was out in the open? Naw! Only long distance interurban cars had toilets, not city cars like this one. Passengers just had to hold it for the less than 30 minute trip.


I had written off a toilet for the same reasons.

Small stove/heating source of some sort does seem reasonable.
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Re: Some more trolleys....C&G, CG&W, H&F, and others....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Oct 11, 2015 5:17 pm

Fonda, Johnstown & Gloversville plow #4.....looks like it's been there for a while and is missing one of the plows....

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Re: Some more trolleys....C&G, CG&W, H&F, and others....

Postby rogruth » Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:11 pm

Rufus,

Would that plow be self propelled or pushed/pulled?

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Re: Some more trolleys....C&G, CG&W, H&F, and others....

Postby Tony-h » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:20 am

Self propelled, Roger. Note the folded down trolley pole on the roof.

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Re: Some more trolleys....C&G, CG&W, H&F, and others....

Postby rogruth » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:45 pm

Yes, I see the pole but many of the plows for steam roads, whether steam,diesel or electric were not self propelled.
The engine or motor was for the plow use only. Must say I have never seen a trolley plow so don't know.
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Re: Some more trolleys....C&G, CG&W, H&F, and others....

Postby webenda » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:20 pm

The style plow shown on No. 4 probably does not need a motor for the plow, just a traction motor to propel it into the snow.
This one, No. 337, needs separate motors for traction and the plow's:
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Re: Some more trolleys....C&G, CG&W, H&F, and others....

Postby robert. » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:32 pm

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Re: Some more trolleys....C&G, CG&W, H&F, and others....

Postby rogruth » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:21 pm

Now there is another first for me.
Never saw them stacked like that before.
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Re: Some more trolleys....C&G, CG&W, H&F, and others....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:33 pm

rogruth wrote:Rufus,

Would that plow be self propelled or pushed/pulled?

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Re: Some more trolleys....C&G, CG&W, H&F, and others....

Postby webenda » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:25 pm

The end of Pacific Electric, California.
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Torrance Pacific Electric Yard
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Still in service circa 1950:
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Belmont Tunnel entrance to Los Angles Subway.
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December 29, 1952, was the last day regularly scheduled cars ran in this area. There were a few fan trips during the scrapping of these cars.

Caving in to public pressure, the Los Angeles City Council designated the Substation and Tunnel Portal a historical landmark,
but refused to set the land aside to prevent future commercial development around the site.
As a result, the Belmont Apartments were built around the landmarks, allowing no public access to them.

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Here is location of Belmont Substation and Tunnel today:

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You can't get in, but they did build a fence to allow the curious to peak at the station and tunnel.
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Slide show of Belmont Tunnel.
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Re: Some more trolleys....C&G, CG&W, H&F, and others....

Postby CommodoreVanderbilt » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:32 am

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Re: Some more trolleys....C&G, CG&W, H&F, and others....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:32 am

Nice shot of the call box traffic light unit there - nice detail to put into a scene!

Nice to see you could connect all the way to Washington......
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Re: Some more trolleys....C&G, CG&W, H&F, and others....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:36 am

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Re: Some more trolleys....C&G, CG&W, H&F, and others....

Postby J. S. Bach » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:36 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Nice shot of the call box traffic light unit there - nice detail to put into a scene! ...snip...

I agree. Those four-way non-adjustable lights are bee's knees. I have a Crouse-Hinds version somewhere in my hoard; I really need to get it back together and hung up in the yard.

Rufus T. Firefly wrote: ...snip... Nice to see you could connect all the way to Washington......

I suspect that the direction arrows were for the auto traffic.

Here is the same (well, as close as Google allows) scene today:
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