Hobo Jungle
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MurphOnMillerAve wrote:webenda wrote:MurphOnMillerAve wrote:I could no more explain that valley to you than I could - nor that anybody could - explain what can be felt when listening to Schubert's Ave Maria. Some things are not meant for words. They take us beyond words - with what they can say - when we want to listen. And can hear.
Bach's Ave Maria is better. < https://youtu.be/cVS9dgsKPyY >
Thank you for that link. I watched Kimi Scota's performance all the way thru and felt nothing from her. Oh, I could see she was serious about performing,and presenting herself well, but I got not one drop of understanding of the message(s) in that song, from her, the occasional tears being dabbed-up by some in the audience, notwithstanding, who I interpreted as doing so due to their understanding the song itself, not gleaning any particular depth from the singer's "interpretation," which I saw as empty.
Could just be me, no doubt.
I'll try to listen to it again ,later, if I can tolerate it.
There was no interpretation, Kimi Skota sang it straight as written.
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----Wayne----
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
Re: Hobo Jungle
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:webenda wrote:MurphOnMillerAve wrote:I could no more explain that valley to you than I could - nor that anybody could - explain what can be felt when listening to Schubert's Ave Maria. Some things are not meant for words. They take us beyond words - with what they can say - when we want to listen. And can hear.
Bach's Ave Maria is better. < https://youtu.be/cVS9dgsKPyY >
Did you find yourself preferring a female singer's performance of the Ave Maria ? Last night, I listened to Andrea Bocelli's presentation, and to Pavarotti's, and found them both beautiful, and moving, but found myself preferring a woman's voice singing the Ave Maria. I am not at all sure why.
No preference for female or male performance.
The prayer ("Sounds like a prayer", André Rieu???) sung by Kimi Skota is the simple prayer to the Virgin Mary that you and I said when we prayed the Rosary. It is also one of the prayers I said after leaving the confessional. It is simple and beautiful.
The version sung by Kimi Skota is credited to French Romantic composer Charles Gounod and is specially designed to be superimposed over the Prelude No. 1 in C major, BWV 846, from Book I of J.S. Bach's The Well-Tempered Clavier. Like most of Bach's work, this piece is a masterpiece of simplicity, it sounds like the music of the universe.
It is the simplicity, beauty, and familiarity with the prayer and score that makes me chose Ave Maria (Bach/Gounod) over the thing you offered.
Andrea Bocelli's presentation was a different Ave Maria, composed by Franz Schubert. It is not our prayer.
And I could not understand a word from Andrea Bocelli. Was he drunk? He slurred everything. And he needed a shave.
Also, the score makes me seasick. It goes up and down, up and down, never changing from its wave shape.
Pavarotti's Ava Maria by Shubert was a masterpiece of perfection. His pronunciation was superior to even Kimi Skota's (who was very good.) I don't particularly like Shubert's Ava Maria but am totally mesmerized by the perfection of Pavarotti. I do not hear the score when Provorati sings, he overpowers everything. I have this one on my disc drive and listen to it when I feel like being awed by Pavarotti.
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----Wayne----
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
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If you agree with the Progressives, it's freedom of speech. If you disagree, it's hate speech. There are no alternatives.
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Mitch wrote::roll: I prefer DooWop, myself!
OK. I like it too. https://youtu.be/v0fy1HeJv80 Blue Moon
How about Jazz? https://youtu.be/ntDnwBiORu8 Blue Moon
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----Wayne----
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
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Fascinating,, Wayne, every word you wrote. Refreshing.Thank you so much for such an interesting conversation. I'll be exploring its many points and nuances several times, in the immediate-future.
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Mitch wrote::roll: I prefer DooWop, myself!
Such as? Favorites, Mitch ?
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Wayne, I listened to the Marcels, and liked it very much. Then I rolled into The Seekers doing "I'll Never Find Another You" That got my morning off to a great start! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqMZePE7SQk
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I'm listening to the new album from Tool - Fear Inoculum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7DfQMP ... Ec&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7DfQMP ... Ec&index=3
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Re: Hobo Jungle
Billie Holliday I remember well from my younger days.
Jazz horn players copied the way she sang, IMHO, not the other way around.
Jazz horn players copied the way she sang, IMHO, not the other way around.
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If God didn't want women to be looked at, He would have made 'em ugly. RAH
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I found the Tool stuff interesting but would need to have more time to listen.
But I find Weird Al interesting also.
I can listen to almost anything for a while. Rap is the hardest.
But I find Weird Al interesting also.
I can listen to almost anything for a while. Rap is the hardest.
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rogruth wrote:I found the Tool stugg interesting but would need to have more time to listen.
As do I - very distinctive sound and stylings. Been 13 years waiting since their last release.
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Rufus T. Firefly wrote:I'm listening to the new album from Tool - Fear Inoculum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7DfQMP ... Ec&index=3
Where has Tool been? They came back rusted.
----Wayne----
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
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webenda wrote:Rufus T. Firefly wrote:I'm listening to the new album from Tool - Fear Inoculum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7DfQMP ... Ec&index=3
Where has Tool been? They came back rusted.
No idea where 3 members have been, but Maynard James has been busy with his other 2 bands and his vineyards in Arizona
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Re: Hobo Jungle
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:webenda wrote:Rufus T. Firefly wrote:I'm listening to the new album from Tool - Fear Inoculum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7DfQMP ... Ec&index=3
Where has Tool been? They came back rusted.
No idea where 3 members have been, but Maynard James has been busy with his other 2 bands and his vineyards in Arizona
Got it, thank you. < https://caduceus.org/ >
----Wayne----
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
Back when I was growing up, if you didn't start someth'n, there wouldn't be noth'n.
--Merle Haggard
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