Hobo Jungle

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Let's see how sentimental he was, what song did he select for the "Father/Daughter Dance".
For me the choice was simple, "Thank God For Kids" by the Oakridge Boys and yes I will admit there were a few tears in my eyes by the time it ended.

Sentiment is good. Because it is the truth.

I can never quite figure out where it suddenly comes up from, but all of a sudden, there it is, taking its hold, and there isn't a thing we can do about it, except experience the innate dignity of the moment. It's our reward for feeling connected to others, and thus, is what makes us human.

We receive our very humanity from others. (That I learned just a few years ago, from reading Edith Stein, a writer and philosopher, who became Sister Therese of the Cross, and died during WWII.)

[webenda]

Andre,

You know from experience that dry ice kills refrigerators?

That makes sense.
CO2 is solid at -109 °F (dry ice temperature.)
The refrigerant in a refrigerator is liquid at -22 to -15 °F.
So the low temperature of the dry ice liquefies the refrigerant.
Since a compressor cannot compress a liquid, something has to give.
It blows the valves, huh Andre? Sort of gives the poor thing a heart attack.



Dry ice would be sure death to the above refrigerators.
The evaporator and the ice cabinet is one in the same.
Might be a problem killing a modern refrigerator, do you think?
The evaporator is hidden inside the freezer compartment walls.

[rogruth]

This is all very cool.

[Water Man]

Daisy, A 44 slug to the compressor and a suicide note will work also

Kurt

hey what about your car??
A.

Maybe this weekend. Depends on the weather.

Kurt

[2railjon]

Hev and Pete!!!!! Thanks for the photos on the wedding!!!!! Trust me, Hev- I've got my picture of you in that monkey suit saved!!!!!! You look like an undertaker for the Adams Family to me!!!!!!

[AG]

do you mean FESTER???
what happen to you, for a long time I didn't see you here......
A.

[2railjon]

Sorry, Andre!! Just a bunch of work stuff going on!!!







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[AG]

Less beer, same price pint of beer




We've told you about shrinking ice cream containers and peanut butter jars --- even though the prices for these items remain the same. Websites like Mouseprint and Consumerist exist just to chronicle such attempts by businesses to get more of our money. And the latest product to get this treatment? Pints of beer, according to the Wall Street Journal.

But how can a beverage dispensed in a standard unit of measurement decrease in size?

You might think it's just the natural variation in the way humans pour a beer, but no. Some bars and restaurants have been serving the drinks in glasses with thicker bottoms, holding only 14 ounces compared to the traditional American 16-ounce pint (in the U.K, pints are about 19 ounces). According to the article, some bartenders comically describe these vessels as falsies.

The article mentions a couple of chain restaurants that practice this, including some Romano's Macaroni Grill locations. Here are some others:

Some restaurants make no apology for reducing their beer-glass size. The Damon's Grill restaurant chain switched to 14 ouncers from 16-ounce glasses two years ago and didn't lower prices. "Someone who comes in and wants a beer doesn't want a huge glass," says Tanny Feerer, vice president for purchasing at Damon's International. "Fourteen ounces is enough." Since then, the chain has held draft beer prices steady.

The Hooters chain serves draft beer in 14-ounce glasses at franchised locations in Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky and Tennessee, and 16-ounce glasses in other states. "We can get 20 more beers out of a keg that way," says Archie Gleason, director of marketing for the franchisee, RMD Corp.

There's also some dispute about how much room to attribute to the head, or foam, that bubbles up when pouring a glass of draft beer.

Don't discount how the shape of the glass affects your perception --- and the bartender's --- of how much beverage they have served to you. According to this study by the author of Mindless Eating, bartenders tended to pour more alcohol into short, wide glasses as opposed to tall, thin glasses.

To me, it's not a question of greed --- if you've ordered a pint of beer, you should get a full pint of beer. If it costs more to make or sell a product, then change the price accordingly --- and let the buyer decide if it's right for him or her. Don't cheat them by cutting portions, at least while keeping prices the same.

Updated: for more examples of outrageous product shrink, check out mouseprint.org and consumerist.com.
Andre.

[webenda]

Andre,

If you (or any forum member, this looks like a national problem) are being shorted on your beer, it is important to report it to your state's weights and measures department.

The United States Constitution, Section 8 - Powers of Congress, states, in part,

"The Congress shall have Power To... ...fix the Standard of Weights and Measures."

The requirement for standard weights and measures is passed onto the states. In your case it is Max Gray's responsiblility.

Florida
Maxwell H. Gray, Chief of FL Department of Agriculture & Consumer Services
3125 Conner Boulevard Lab 2
Tallahassee, FL 32399

Phone: (850) 488-9140
Fax: (850) 922-6064

The Florida Division of Standards protects consumers from unfair business practices across a wide range of products.

Here is Max Gray's stated mission:

Bureau of Weights and Measures
Max Gray, Bureau Chief

Our Mission
To protect Florida's buyers and sellers by assuring that equity prevails in commercial transactions involving measurement and to provide a standardized calibration and scientific measurement center for the state.

http://ts.nist.gov/WeightsAndMeasures/s ... ectors.cfm

[webenda]

Short measures of beer is not a new idea. One famous example is King John (24 December 1167 - 19 October 1216) of England who reduced the size of ale measures in order to gain more tax money for an unpopular war with France.

King John lives on in infamy in a nursery rhyme:

Jack and Jill went up the hill
To fetch a pail of water;
Jack fell down and broke his crown
And Jill came tumbling after.

(Nursery rhymes are one of the most lasting forms of passed-down lore. While seemingly fun and innocent, many nursery rhymes actually have deep political, religious, and/or satirical roots. Jack and Jill is just such a nursery rhyme.)

Here are some English units of measure:
2 mouthfuls = 1 jigger
2 jiggers = 1 jack
2 jacks = 1 jill (sometimes spelled gill) = 1 cup
2 cups = pint
2 pints = 1 quart
2 quarts = 1 pottle
2 pottles = 1 gallon
2 gallons = 1 pail

"Jack and Jill went up the hill" mentions three units of volume: the jack (also nickname for John) the jill and the pail. The rhyme was composed to tell the story of King John of England's taxation and reduction of size of the jacks, or jackpots, jills and other units of liquor sold in taverns. King John’s success at accumulating revenue from the taxes on liquor is the origin of the expression to hit the jackpot. The phrase broke his crown in the nursery rhyme refers to King John's acquiescing to the nobility (the barons) and signing the Magna Carta ("the Great Charter"), a document that limited his power and that is popularly regarded as an early first step in the evolution of modern democracy.

Magna Carta was the first document forced onto an English King (King John) by a group of his subjects (the barons) in an attempt to limit his powers by law and protect the unit of ale and wine. Clause 35 of the clauses in the Magna Carta states, "35. There shall be one measure of wine throughout our whole realm, and one measure of ale and one measure of corn--namely, the London quart;--and one width of dyed and russet and hauberk cloths--namely, two ells below the selvage. And with weights, moreover, it shall be as with measures."

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09531a.htm (history lesson)
http://www.britannia.com/history/docs/magna2.html (read text here)
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featur ... gna_carta/ (image here)

[2railjon]

Wayne, pretty fascinating story behind the old nursery rhyme!! Thanks for sharing!!! It reminds me of an old English song the band Traffic did ......

"John Barleycorn (Must Die)"
There were three men came out of the west, their fortunes for to try
And these three men made a solemn vow
John Barleycorn must die
They've plowed, they've sown, they've harrowed him in
Threw clods upon his head
And these three men made a solemn vow
John Barleycorn was dead
They've let him lie for a very long time, 'til the rains from heaven did fall
And little Sir John sprung up his head and so amazed them all
They've let him stand 'til Midsummer's Day 'til he looked both pale and wan
And little Sir John's grown a long long beard and so become a man
They've hired men with their scythes so sharp to cut him off at the knee
They've rolled him and tied him by the waist serving him most barbarously
They've hired men with their sharp pitchforks who've pricked him to the heart
And the loader he has served him worse than that
For he's bound him to the cart
They've wheeled him around and around a field 'til they came unto a barn

And there they made a solemn oath on poor John Barleycorn
They've hired men with their crabtree sticks to cut him skin from bone
And the miller he has served him worse than that
For he's ground him between two stones

And little Sir John and the nut brown bowl and his brandy in the glass
And little Sir John and the nut brown bowl proved the strongest man at last
The huntsman he can't hunt the fox nor so loudly to blow his horn
And the tinker he can't mend kettle or pots without a little barleycorn

You can listen to the song here: (It's awesome):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wml3V-ma ... re=related




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[webenda]

"The huntsman he can't hunt the fox nor so loudly to blow his horn
And the tinker he can't mend kettle or pots without a little barleycorn"

Yep. John Barleycorn is too important to life to let corporate America short measure us on our beer.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Hev and Pete!!!!! Thanks for the photos on the wedding!!!!! Trust me, Hev- I've got my picture of you in that monkey suit saved!!!!!! You look like an undertaker for the Adams Family to me!!!!!!

I know you're jus' kiddin' there, Highrailjon, but I just gotta say, since he made such a moment public, here on our forum, that to me, he looks like a guy who was so peacefully happy that day, that he'd have put on anything just to have been able to stand there with that beautiful angel, and to have shared and given that day to his family and friends. I am certain. And I am sure you are,too.

[2railjon]

I am certain. And I am sure you are,too.

Murph, Me n' Ol' Hev spent a few years together in San Quentin (because he bungled his part of the Ft. Knox job. Not that I'm pointing the blame or nothing. But you just don't dial 911 and tell the law dawgs ya got caught up in a bunch of razor wire from a parachute jump(no parachute, Duh) while your homie is in the tunnel). If I was to go an say nice things about the guy.....well..... it just wouldn't sit well with the other cellmates.

[The Dirt]

That, Murph, for sure, plus he couldn't wait to get to the reception so he could get a good load on!

Jon,