JLC GG1 Truck Deterioration

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Re: JLC GG1 Truck Deterioration

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Sep 01, 2025 8:30 am

bob turner wrote:That's the point. The Hennings solution is not currently available. They did a number of sets, but not nearly enough to cover the entire production run of JLC GG1s.


Non-trivial mold to make. Probably more so to just use successfully.

Glad I'm about 99% done making molds; the 1% is for my own use. Cost of resin and everything has doubled and shipping like-wise.
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Re: JLC GG1 Truck Deterioration

Postby bob turner » Mon Sep 01, 2025 1:39 pm

I think that is what happened. That, and their expert mold maker figured he was working for $5/hr.

Apparently not all of these JLC GG1 trucks failed. In that long string, a number of folks stated that they saw no damage. Maybe the zinc pest was in only one pour, and it isn't as big a problem as it seemed in 2019.

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Re: JLC GG1 Truck Deterioration

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Sep 01, 2025 1:50 pm

bob turner wrote:I think that is what happened. That, and their expert mold maker figured he was working for $5/hr.


Seems likely.

Apparently not all of these JLC GG1 trucks failed. In that long string, a number of folks stated that they saw no damage. Maybe the zinc pest was in only one pour, and it isn't as big a problem as it seemed in 2019.


Different batches of alloy and different QC.
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Re: JLC GG1 Truck Deterioration

Postby healey36 » Fri Oct 24, 2025 7:43 am

gregj410 wrote:https://o-gaugeforum.com/thread/13179/erecting-shop-tales-harmon-project

I saw this over there and wonder why it took so long. I will say I've had some issues with some small, thin prints warping, but 3D prints in general seem a good solution to this problem, maybe.

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Re: JLC GG1 Truck Deterioration

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:14 am

healey36 wrote:
gregj410 wrote:https://o-gaugeforum.com/thread/13179/erecting-shop-tales-harmon-project

I saw this over there and wonder why it took so long. I will say I've had some issues with some small, thin prints warping, but 3D prints in general seem a good solution to this problem, maybe.


I do wonder about the longer term stability of resin prints. I guess if there's little physical stress or temperature variance that they might be good. But the history of resin casting (not printing) is resplendent with examples of what were perfectly flat and straight parts when put into the box years later being found to be significantly warped. I have also been told that some of the 3D printed O scale bodies for cars and others stuff has turned very brittle over time. It may all be resident in the types of resin printed or cast. Let's see where these go over time.
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Re: JLC GG1 Truck Deterioration

Postby bob turner » Fri Sep 11, 2026 1:48 am

Another hobbyist bought a JLC GG1 on eBay, and upon unpacking the truck side frames disintegrated. OGR post.

I see these things - only out of the box for photos - $750. Is that what they are worth with crumbled side frames?
I am ready to restore one with beautiful lost wax castings, but not ready to invest quite that heavily.

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Re: JLC GG1 Truck Deterioration

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Sep 11, 2026 8:36 am

bob turner wrote:Another hobbyist bought a JLC GG1 on eBay, and upon unpacking the truck side frames disintegrated. OGR post.

I see these things - only out of the box for photos - $750. Is that what they are worth with crumbled side frames?


If you can sell it for that much, it was worth it to the buyer, :wink: :wink: The seller was a Ferengi!

I am ready to restore one with beautiful lost wax castings, but not ready to invest quite that heavily.


And if you did not have the castings to replace the side frames, what would you pay for one of these?
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Re: JLC GG1 Truck Deterioration

Postby bob turner » Fri Sep 11, 2026 1:18 pm

Nothing. It would be worthless to me.
As it is, with no shortage of really nice bronze GG1s around here, a good JLC body with pantographs - I would give a hundred bucks.
I think I can afford to wait.

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Re: JLC GG1 Truck Deterioration

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Sep 11, 2026 3:45 pm

bob turner wrote:Nothing. It would be worthless to me.
As it is, with no shortage of really nice bronze GG1s around here, a good JLC body with pantographs - I would give a hundred bucks.
I think I can afford to wait.


The pantographs might be worth something, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: JLC GG1 Truck Deterioration

Postby Norton » Fri Sep 11, 2026 3:59 pm

Pretty sure someone is 3D printing these now. Posted on OGR though may be harder to search for now. I have seen photos and they appear to have good detail.

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Re: JLC GG1 Truck Deterioration

Postby bob turner » Fri Sep 11, 2026 8:55 pm

I saw that. And Hennings is going to do another production run of urethane side frames.

I never buy stuff to resell - and I amnot desperate for a die cast GG1.

Now if they made a die cast PA or E7 I might be tempted. Maybe.


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