sarge wrote:HD and Lowes are old and arthritic. They are in the process of going the way of 84 and Hechingers.
I hate having to go there.
I dislike both as well, but there is little choice around here as the real hardware shops dried up and died long ago; real lumber yard does exist (sort of....) but my dealings with them have never been pleasant; you get treated badly and as if you are a problem they'd like to not have; if you are not there to buy the lumber to do an entire house, you are shouldered aside....and ignored.
84, btw still exists in some form - I've seen a few in my travels. Going the way of Hechinger's......not based on anything related to their financials nor the crowds that make the parking lots a true hazard - and our new stove came from HD, delivered and installed for about 1/2 the price of the kitchen supply shops and w/o the months long wait that seems to plague the rest of the supply line
The ignorance is appalling .............
Well, it is and isn't. That's based on my experience as to who in the store to provides your assistance. Last time I needed plumbing supplies I got great help at HD. Got the exact stuff I need to marry the sink from my GF's install to the relocated drain lines....that used some apparently rather odd non-standard fittings. And, oddly enough I've had great service and help from the Lowes in Chambersburg off Rt 30!
Finkle's in Lambertville NJ.
We used to have a similarly stocked store in Springfield that was worth the trip for anything off from routine as you knew it would be there and aged staff would be able to confer and locate it for you. It was sold, closed, re-opened, closed, and went through legal machinations and finally died quietly.