A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....2

[rogruth]

In my opinion the Gap is not appreciated as it should be by the casual traveler who is just passing through the area.

Beautiful photos, Rufus and Chuck.

Beautiful memories, Murph.

[chuck]

It's pretty in the different seasons but winter can be a bit treacherous. We used to make two trips a year back when the kids were young to visit their grandmother, great grandmother, and their two aunts.

The gap itself isn't the problem, its the ups and downs approaching it from the Jersey side and then the big climb up into the Pocono's almost as soon as you cross into Pennsylvania. There is a crazy big ***'d outlet mall just outside Stroudsburg, "The Crossings" which seems out of place but what do I know about outlet malls. I've travelled I-80 so many times it seems like it's "local". The really pretty stuff in Jersey is the 15 miles before you get to the river itself. Pennsylvania get's pretty once you've climbed the first hill/mountain and gotten out of the valley. Then it's just 300 more miles of trees, farmland and really big hills.

I did experiment with alternate routes but it always came back to 80 because it cuts right through the center of the state and is significantly shorter both in milage and really has an edge in time. I-86 is to the north and it's actually a full interstate freeway where for a long time it was NY 17 and was freeway between the main towns but you had to cruise through every main street at 25 mph. IT took us 12-14 hours for that. I will never, never, never drive on the Penn Turnpike again. It may have been an outstanding road back when it was built in the 1950's but it has not aged well. The New York State Thruway is almost as expensive as the Penn Turnpike and is in way better shape BUT it goes too far north out of the way. Ohio State Turnpike has gotten to be rather expensive but you are getting what you paid for. The toll money went into improvements. Three lanes in each direction and the road surface is in really good shape. Boring, very. Easy drive, Yes! Unfortunately there isn't much to see.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

[robert.]

" i will never drive on the Penn turnpike again" Chuck. Pa's trnpk. Is the highest priced road in the world. In a few months the will have another 5 percent increase. This will push even more traffic onto Rt 80 ,30 and 23.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

" i will never drive on the Penn turnpike again" Chuck. Pa's trnpk. Is the highest priced road in the world. In a few months the will have another 5 percent increase. This will push even more traffic onto Rt 80 ,30 and 23.

Rt. 30 has way too many lights, and small towns to go through, and too much of it is also 2/3 lanes.

Rt. 81 will be overflowing with even more trucks.

Ohio State Turnpike has gotten to be rather expensive but you are getting what you paid for. The toll money went into improvements. Three lanes in each direction and the road surface is in really good shape. Boring, very. Easy drive, Yes! Unfortunately there isn't much to see.

I used to dread driving across Ohio......boring would have been an upgrade.

[chuck]

I used to dread driving across Ohio......boring would have been an upgrade.

North west Ohio is really flat, old glacial outwash plain. Turnpike is limited access so a lot of cases the turnpike jumps over the local ride. I think I could see farther from the tops of the overpasses than I could in Kansas and Nebraska. That outwash plain actually carries pretty far south on the western side until you get near the Ohio River Valley. I used to drive soil samples down to the lab just outside of Cincinnati, about a 4-4.5 hour drive. The lab was right behind the Keebler plant. No elves, no trees. Just a lot of corn syrup tank cars and flour filled covered hoppers.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

When I see the many wonderful and informative old photos/postcards you post here, I repeatedly feel a pervasive peacefulness in all of them.

It makes me wonder, where did all that peacefulness go?

[chuck]

It makes me wonder, where did all that peacefulness go?

They didn't have cell phones?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

It makes me wonder, where did all that peacefulness go?

It's still out there; just get away from the cities or at least go to places that are an hour from anywhere.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

At the Dents Run, PA post office.

[J. S. Bach]

Post Office?? With a telegraph sounder? It looks more like a railroad tower or station office.

[chuck]

Dent's run is a small unincorporated community. It's probably the combination of a RR Station, Post Office and switch control for the sidings at the former PRR line in/at Dent's Crossing. That looks like an Armstrong switch controller just to the right of the desk.

[rogruth]

Makes sense to me.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Post Office?? With a telegraph sounder? It looks more like a railroad tower or station office.

Thanks ; I work with what's written on the back of the card

As Chuck noted, probably everything in one building given the size of the town.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

In Derry, Pa