Coronavirus:

[robert.]

Will the government reimburse hospitals for covid cases? Will a covid case bring in more money than the flu?

[Neil]

It doesn’t matter one bit. Neither the hospitals or doctors are going to commit a felony by attempting to defraud the government or other healthcare insurance. The tests are in the medical record. Stop listening to idiots who don’t know what they’re talking about and just have these bizarre and dishonest conspiracy theories that don’t hold any water.

[robert.]

It doesn’t matter one bit. Neither the hospitals or doctors are going to commit a felony by attempting to defraud the government or other healthcare insurance. The tests are in the medical record. Stop listening to idiots who don’t know what they’re talking about and just have these bizarre and dishonest conspiracy theories that don’t hold any water.

You don’t believe your own bs do you?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Stop listening to idiots who don’t know what they’re talking about and just have these bizarre and dishonest conspiracy theories that don’t hold any water.

They haven't for 4 years now and probably won't now -- they are altogether too comforted by conspiracy theories, misinformation, and disinformation rather than having to face up to just living in reality.

[robert.]

Reality is a question will a hospital receive more funds for covid than the flu. Simple question. Not a conspiracy.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Reality is a question will a hospital receive more funds for covid than the flu. Simple question. Not a conspiracy.

Not on the basis of just a diagnosis - billing just doesn't work that way.

And yes this is yet another one of the amazingly stupid BS conspiracy theories that's been scattered about and even showed up here in this very forum that flu cases were being called covid cases to boost numbers and/or to make more money.

[Neil]

The claim that hospitals are hiding a flu diagnosis by giving patients a diagnosis of COVID-19 because it yields more money is preposterous and is being offered by people who are either incredibly stupid or maliciously dishonest. It isn't happening, it couldn't happen and if it somehow did happen, there are armies of nurses and physicians who would be happy to become incredibly wealthy by being whistleblowers, because there is no love lost between hospital administrators and healthcare workers.

Why some perfectly nice and otherwise sensible people believe this utter nonsense is beyond my understanding. But I do know about virus testing, hospitals, billing and how physicians and nurses function. It's total, unmitigated rubbish to think we are misdiagnosing or erroneously billing as COVID-19 what is actually influenza, for whatever fantasy reason. Believing this is true is like believing Alex Jones and other monstrous individuals' claim that no children died in the Sandy Hook shootings. It's a vile attempt to mislead the public by a small coterie of political whackos who would like to destroy our society by undermining the credibility of government and subject matter experts. These people want to harm you and civilization for whatever psychopathology that motivates them.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Why some perfectly nice and otherwise sensible people believe this utter nonsense is beyond my understanding.

Many people just find comfort in believing the worst in others.

[Neil]

"You don’t believe your own bs do you?"

Feel free to remove your own appendix or gall bladder instead of trusting those dishonest surgeons and nurses. Good luck.

[robert.]

My friend’s homeless brother. Died from a hit and run. He died in Florida. When the ashes were picked up. His death certificate noted cause of death covid 19 .The guy was comatose from being left for dead on the street. He must have tested positive during admission to the hospital. His killer was arrested in Del Ray and charged with his 4th DUI. Ny friend has been trying for almost a year to change his brothers death certificate.

[Neil]

That's your story? Pretty slender for a conspiracy to diagnose everyone with COVID-19. I'm telling you it isn't happening. Lots of people dying of COVID-19 in 2020. None of influenza, full stop. You want to believe nutjob conspiracy theories, it's your Constitutional right.

How do you know he didn't have COVID-19 as a contributing cause of death? Comatose people have to die of something. You don't die of coma. You don't die of being found in the middle of the road if you still have a pulse and are breathing. You die in hospital, you die of something else. The death certificate often lists stroke, heart attack or infection as the terminal event. Unless he dies in the ER, the cause of death would rarely list trauma except as an underlying condition. That's how death certificates are done.

[robert.]

It doesn’t matter one bit. Neither the hospitals or doctors are going to commit a felony by attempting to defraud the government or other healthcare insurance. The tests are in the medical record. Stop listening to idiots who don’t know what they’re talking about and just have these bizarre and dishonest conspiracy theories that don’t hold any water.

You don’t believe your own bs do you?

Pages of fraud. What a pristine profession. I only posted the first 3 to pop up. not much of a problem having my gallbladder removed. I just walk into a hospital and some crook will steal it. I left out the honest doctors that wrote prescriptions for oxycodone in exchange for cash. I have driven through Kansas before and it makes the earth look flat. But we're not in Kansas anymore ToTo. We.re in the for profit hospital business.
https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/white-c ... fraud-news
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/l ... -0724.html
https://www.ksl.com/article/46265897/wh ... kered-past

[Neil]

"What a pristine profession. "

We're human beings. I'm sure your profession is only full of angels and saints .

[robert.]

That's your story? Pretty slender for a conspiracy to diagnose everyone with COVID-19. I'm telling you it isn't happening. Lots of people dying of COVID-19 in 2020. None of influenza, full stop. You want to believe nutjob conspiracy theories, it's your Constitutional right.

How do you know he didn't have COVID-19 as a contributing cause of death? Comatose people have to die of something. You don't die of coma. You don't die of being found in the middle of the road if you still have a pulse and are breathing. You die in hospital, you die of something else. The death certificate often lists stroke, heart attack or infection as the terminal event. Unless he dies in the ER, the cause of death would rarely list trauma except as an underlying condition. That's how death certificates are done.

He was run over by a car and drug down the road. His brother had the plug pulled and believes he died from withdraw . It took the hospital some time to find a family member willing to speak to them. He was listed as a john do for a few days.

[robert.]

My profession is filled with some of the biggest thieves in the world. They lie and cheat their way through a deal.