It was in the News a couple days ago in my area that a ten year old boy lost both parents, in the same time frame , to the virus.
Such a loss is almost beyond comprehension. He is never going to be the same. Though I lost my father when I was ten, I cannot fully imagine what this boy is going through.
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MurphOnMillerAve wrote:It was in the News a couple days ago in my area that a ten year old boy lost both parents, in the same time frame , to the virus.
Such a loss is almost beyond comprehension. He is never going to be the same. Though I lost my father when I was ten, I cannot fully imagine what this boy is going through.
While sad indeed it’s just more hype to whip people into hysteria. You’d be hard pressed to find the news reporting on any 10 year old boy that lost his parents to (fill in the blank), pre covid.
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Maybe, except for a house fire, for example
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MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Maybe, except for a house fire, for example
You see those sorts of stories on the news nearly every day. They run them all the time to pull at the heartstrings of viewers & sell advertising time.
But, it's also completely irrelevant to the topic -- this is the sort of misdirection argument that used to distract and deflect people away from real point. We're pushing steadily towards 500k dead and will probably get there by the end of the month. Hype is people trying to deflect our eyes and minds away from the reality that this could have been averted and controlled far better, and that now it's going to take another year minimum to get this under something that might termed as "under control".
What if lollipops moaned every time we licked them?
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I said before that 'WHO" will never find out how it started.
Covid-19 pandemic: China 'refused to give data' to WHO team
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56054468
China refused to hand over key data to the World Health Organization (WHO) team investigating the origins of Covid-19, one of its members has said.
Microbiologist Dominic Dwyer told Reuters, the Wall St Journal and the New York Times the team requested raw patient data from early cases, what he called "standard practice",
He said they only received a summary.
China has not responded to the allegation but has previously insisted it was transparent with the WHO.
The US has urged China to make available data from the earliest stages of the outbreak, saying it has "deep concerns" about the WHO report.
Last week, the WHO team concluded it was "extremely unlikely" that the coronavirus leaked from a lab in the city of Wuhan, dismissing a controversial theory that emerged last year.
Wuhan was the first place in the world where the virus was detected, in late 2019. Since then, more than 106 million cases and 2.3 million deaths have been reported worldwide.
Covid-19 pandemic: China 'refused to give data' to WHO team
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56054468
China refused to hand over key data to the World Health Organization (WHO) team investigating the origins of Covid-19, one of its members has said.
Microbiologist Dominic Dwyer told Reuters, the Wall St Journal and the New York Times the team requested raw patient data from early cases, what he called "standard practice",
He said they only received a summary.
China has not responded to the allegation but has previously insisted it was transparent with the WHO.
The US has urged China to make available data from the earliest stages of the outbreak, saying it has "deep concerns" about the WHO report.
Last week, the WHO team concluded it was "extremely unlikely" that the coronavirus leaked from a lab in the city of Wuhan, dismissing a controversial theory that emerged last year.
Wuhan was the first place in the world where the virus was detected, in late 2019. Since then, more than 106 million cases and 2.3 million deaths have been reported worldwide.
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Biden administration expresses 'deep concerns' about WHO's China probe
The Biden administration on Saturday expressed "deep concerns" about the World Health Organization’s (WHO) probe into the Chinese handling of the coronavirus.
"We have deep concerns about the way in which the early findings of the COVID-19 investigation were communicated and questions about the process used to reach them," National Security Adviser Jake Sherman said in a lengthy statement. "It is imperative that this report be independent, with expert findings free from intervention or alteration by the Chinese government."
The WHO sent a team to investigate the origins of the virus in Wuhan, and was closely watched for evidence of Chinese stonewalling. The team left this week after saying that it was "extremely unlikely" that the virus emerged from a lab in Wuhan -- and said it was pretty much not worth "further studies."
The WHO scientists said in an exit briefing it is "most likely" that the coronavirus was initially transmitted via a jump from an animal to human (perhaps starting with a bat, associated with the Wuhan seafood market).
The WHO team of investigators found frozen wild animals being sold in the Wuhan market that came from regions where bats and hosts are known to carry a virus similar to novel coronavirus.
The Trump administration moved to terminate the relationship with the WHO over its handling of the early days of the pandemic, and particularly its alleged pro-China bias.
STATE DEPARTMENT SAYS 'JURY STILL OUT' ON WHO'S WUHAN CORONAVIRUS INVESTIGATION
The Biden administration has reversed that, and committed to the U.S. to the WHO.
On Saturday, Sullivan referenced statements by the team that they did not get to see raw data and had to rely on an analysis of the data that was presented to them -- and called for China to get it.
The Biden administration on Saturday expressed "deep concerns" about the World Health Organization’s (WHO) probe into the Chinese handling of the coronavirus.
"We have deep concerns about the way in which the early findings of the COVID-19 investigation were communicated and questions about the process used to reach them," National Security Adviser Jake Sherman said in a lengthy statement. "It is imperative that this report be independent, with expert findings free from intervention or alteration by the Chinese government."
The WHO sent a team to investigate the origins of the virus in Wuhan, and was closely watched for evidence of Chinese stonewalling. The team left this week after saying that it was "extremely unlikely" that the virus emerged from a lab in Wuhan -- and said it was pretty much not worth "further studies."
The WHO scientists said in an exit briefing it is "most likely" that the coronavirus was initially transmitted via a jump from an animal to human (perhaps starting with a bat, associated with the Wuhan seafood market).
The WHO team of investigators found frozen wild animals being sold in the Wuhan market that came from regions where bats and hosts are known to carry a virus similar to novel coronavirus.
The Trump administration moved to terminate the relationship with the WHO over its handling of the early days of the pandemic, and particularly its alleged pro-China bias.
STATE DEPARTMENT SAYS 'JURY STILL OUT' ON WHO'S WUHAN CORONAVIRUS INVESTIGATION
The Biden administration has reversed that, and committed to the U.S. to the WHO.
On Saturday, Sullivan referenced statements by the team that they did not get to see raw data and had to rely on an analysis of the data that was presented to them -- and called for China to get it.
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WHO will get just what China wants them to have.
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I support thread drift.
If God didn't want women to be looked at, He would have made 'em ugly. RAH
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Rufus T. Firefly wrote:MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Maybe, except for a house fire, for example
You see those sorts of stories on the news nearly every day. They run them all the time to pull at the heartstrings of viewers & sell advertising time.
But, it's also completely irrelevant to the topic -- this is the sort of misdirection argument that used to distract and deflect people away from real point. We're pushing steadily towards 500k dead and will probably get there by the end of the month. Hype is people trying to deflect our eyes and minds away from the reality that this could have been averted and controlled far better, and that now it's going to take another year minimum to get this under something that might termed as "under control".
That’s if you believe the numbers. One thing I find strange through all of this is the lack of reporting on who is dying from the virus. So we know that people with comorbidity are more vulnerable, but is it higher in older people? That makes sense to me and if that’s the case I’m more troubled by why we are not exclusively vaccinating that group first.I know several people my age or younger that have been vaccinated. If I was going to get vaccinated, I’d likely pass for someone more vulnerable.
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California's coronavirus strain looks increasingly dangerous: 'The devil is already here'
https://news.yahoo.com/californias-coro ... 55544.html
A coronavirus variant that probably emerged in May and surged to become the dominant strain in California not only spreads more readily than its predecessors but also evades antibodies generated by COVID-19 vaccines or prior infection and is associated with severe illness and death, researchers said.
In a study that helps explain the state’s dramatic holiday surge in COVID-19 cases and deaths — and portends further trouble ahead — scientists at UC San Francisco said the cluster of mutations that characterizes the homegrown strain should mark it as a “variant of concern” on par with those from the United Kingdom, South Africa and Brazil.
Californians, along with the rest of the country, have been bracing for an onslaught of the more transmissible strain from the U.K. known as B.1.1.7. But they should know that a rival strain that is probably just as worrisome has already settled in, and will probably account for 90% of the state’s infections by the end of next month, said Dr. Charles Chiu, an infectious diseases researcher and physician at UCSF.
“The devil is already here,” said Chiu, who led a team of geneticists, epidemiologists, statisticians and other scientists in a wide-ranging analysis of the new variant, which they call B.1.427/B.1.429. “I wish it were different. But the science is the science.”
https://news.yahoo.com/californias-coro ... 55544.html
A coronavirus variant that probably emerged in May and surged to become the dominant strain in California not only spreads more readily than its predecessors but also evades antibodies generated by COVID-19 vaccines or prior infection and is associated with severe illness and death, researchers said.
In a study that helps explain the state’s dramatic holiday surge in COVID-19 cases and deaths — and portends further trouble ahead — scientists at UC San Francisco said the cluster of mutations that characterizes the homegrown strain should mark it as a “variant of concern” on par with those from the United Kingdom, South Africa and Brazil.
Californians, along with the rest of the country, have been bracing for an onslaught of the more transmissible strain from the U.K. known as B.1.1.7. But they should know that a rival strain that is probably just as worrisome has already settled in, and will probably account for 90% of the state’s infections by the end of next month, said Dr. Charles Chiu, an infectious diseases researcher and physician at UCSF.
“The devil is already here,” said Chiu, who led a team of geneticists, epidemiologists, statisticians and other scientists in a wide-ranging analysis of the new variant, which they call B.1.427/B.1.429. “I wish it were different. But the science is the science.”
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Covid: Anti-lockdown protests as MPs call for law change
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56469687
Thousands of people have attended anti-lockdown demonstrations in London, after MPs urged the government to allow peaceful protest during lockdown.
Crowds marched from Hyde Park to Westminster, with at least 13 arrests by police, mostly for Covid breaches.
Scotland Yard said the number of people attending Saturday's demonstrations exceeded expectations.
The Home Office said it was still illegal for people to attend protests under the current coronavirus rules.
Deputy Assistant Commissioner Laurence Taylor told the BBC more people than previously expected were at Saturday's protests, but the Met has not given a formal estimate of the number in attendance.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56469687
Thousands of people have attended anti-lockdown demonstrations in London, after MPs urged the government to allow peaceful protest during lockdown.
Crowds marched from Hyde Park to Westminster, with at least 13 arrests by police, mostly for Covid breaches.
Scotland Yard said the number of people attending Saturday's demonstrations exceeded expectations.
The Home Office said it was still illegal for people to attend protests under the current coronavirus rules.
Deputy Assistant Commissioner Laurence Taylor told the BBC more people than previously expected were at Saturday's protests, but the Met has not given a formal estimate of the number in attendance.
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If you got the flu this last year it was counted as the virus.
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Nobody got the flu this year. Probably due to some combination of vaccines, masks and decreased exposure indoors. We have tests that easily distinguish between flu, other respiratory pathogens and coronavirus. We do these tests because we have antibiotics for bacterial infections, antibiotics for mycoplasma and chlamydia, antivirals for influenza A and B and remdesivir for coronavirus, etc. It would be malpractice not to do these tests. And virtually all the tests done are negative for influenza A and B.
Believe the fantasies and disgusting, anti-social lies of the deranged right wing media if you like, but they are ignoramuses and liars. And by the way, the earth isn't flat
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Believe the fantasies and disgusting, anti-social lies of the deranged right wing media if you like, but they are ignoramuses and liars. And by the way, the earth isn't flat
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Neil wrote:And by the way, the earth isn't flat
But the Easter Bunny is real and I'm expecting lots of tasty candy this year
What if lollipops moaned every time we licked them?
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