vaccine

[up148]

More scary than sad and it's very, very sad.

[HONDO74]

Covid-19: Fact-checking Macron's over-65s claim about the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine
https://www.bbc.com/news/55919245

On the day the European Medicines Agency (EMA) approved the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine on 29 January for use for all age groups in the EU, French president Emmanuel Macron claimed that it was "quasi-ineffective" for people over 65.

He added that "the early results we have are not encouraging for 60 to 65-year-old people concerning AstraZeneca".

But the UK government and British medical regulators strongly disagree.

So what is the evidence on the AstraZeneca (AZ) vaccine and older people?
Who's doing what?

Following Mr Macron's comments, France's Health Authority made an official recommendation on 2 February that the vaccine should not be used for people over 65. It said more studies were needed before it was rolled out to older age groups.

Other European countries have taken a similar position: Germany, Austria, Sweden and Poland only recommend it for people under 65, and Italy and Belgium for those under 55.

Switzerland - not an EU country - has ruled against approving the vaccine for any age group. The Swiss medical regulator said there was not enough data yet on safety, effectiveness and quality to do so.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

So what is the evidence.........

And that's what's missing.

[gregj410]

"replace Marjorie Green with Margaret Sanger."

I'd replace Marjorie Greene with anything above an amoeba in the evolutionary chain. Margaret Sanger has been dead for over a half a century. Not a valid comparison. Not to mention that Marjorie Greene hasn't done anything to further the cause of humanity. At least Margaret Sanger managed to get contraception availability on the social agenda. Margaret Sanger may or may not have been a racist. Marjorie Greene is an anti-semitic, racist, xenophobe lunatic who has advocated killing members of the opposition. She belongs in jail, not Congress.

Bullshit Neil. Your unbelievable! You’re gonna run your mouth about a woman that almost nothing Is known about and then say Margaret Sanger may or may not be a racist!

Pay attention boys and girls, notice how Neil tries to separate himself from Margaret Sanger. Just because she’s been dead she’s not relevant? That’s because she is the face of the Democratic Party. The founder of Planned parenthood that slaughters 40% of the black babies every year. So when you think of her, think of Neil and the Democrats.

But fret not because there’s still hope for Neil, he’s been trying to follow Jesus. He’s still struggling with ’Thou shall not bear false witness’.That’s when you come on the forum and tell lies and spread disinformation Dr Neil. You just keep trying though because Jesus is full of forgiveness and grace and he loves you even when everyone else thinks your an a-s-s-hole.

Read for yourself

https://www.hli.org/resources/the-diffe ... ers-world/

[Neil]

Look in the mirror Greg and then you will see the arshole. Killing embryos is a lesser evil than sedition and murdering police like your people do.

You are a complete idiot if you think Margaret Sanger’s opinions of a century ago have anything to do with today’s Democrats. Whereas Margaret Greene is quite mainstream Republican. Ooooh they stole the election. Ooooh the Jews are lasering California. Oooh the satanic pedophiles are going to be defeated by Donald Trump.

[gregj410]

You are a complete idiot if you think Margaret Sanger’s opinions of a century ago have anything to do with today’s Democrats.

Hmm? Maybe but why would Hildebeast get the 2009 MS award? Just a wild guess, because she, a Democrat, from your party supports slaughtering babies of color in some way, shape or form. You should be so proud Dr Neil.

Killing embryos is a lesser evil

Killing? I didn’t think an embryo was considered anything but a blob of cells? Not really a life. They do become baby’s Dr Neil. You are a doctor right?

https://youtu.be/NXQjCuWFdzI

[HONDO74]

and murdering police like your people do.

The police are being killed all the time in this country and not by conservative or republicans

WASHINGTON (ABC7) — A staggering 264 police officers were killed in the line of duty in 2020 representing a 96% increase compared to the previous year, according to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund.

As of Dec. 31, 2020, the 264 officers killed consisted of federal, state, local, tribal, and territorial officers in the line of duty compared to 135 officers who died in the line of duty in 2019.

Approximately 246 of the fallen officers were men and 18 were women with the average age of the fallen officer 47 years old with at least 17 years of service on the job and on average. Each fallen officer left behind two children.

More than 400 law enforcement officers injured in riots across U.S last summer with 2 killed.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Reflecting on the "killing of embryos" having been mentioned here, allow me to submit for your consideration:

Judaism, Islam, and Christians have very deliberate respective beliefs and doctrine about when an embryo becomes a human being. It has everything to do with when it's is believed the soul enters the living being.

I found the differences and similarities remarkable and very worthy of serious contemplation and respect and has everything to do with beliefs and attitudes toward abortion, to say the least .

That's a great many people who are , ostensibly at least, possessed of serious beliefs about what constitutes a life.

I have not learned what the Buddhists ( which does not consider itself a religion ) and Hindus believe in this regard .

[HONDO74]

Reflecting on the "killing of embryos" having been mentioned here, allow me to submit for your consideration:

Judaism, Islam, and Christians have very deliberate respective beliefs and doctrine about when an embryo becomes a human being. It has everything to do with when it's is believed the soul enters the living being.

I found the differences and similarities remarkable and very worthy of serious contemplation and respect and has everything to do with beliefs and attitudes toward abortion, to say the least .

That's a great many people who are , ostensibly at least, possessed of serious beliefs about what constitutes a life.

I have not learned what the Buddhists ( which does not consider itself a religion ) and Hindus believe in this regard .

What do Roman Catholics believe ??

Joe Biden and six of the supreme court justices are Roman Catholic...

Kamala Harris was against Amy Coney Barrett. Roman Catholic becoming a supreme court justice because she would over turn Roe vs Wade.

Supreme court justices.

Brett Kavanaugh, Roman Catholic

Neil Gorsuch. Episcopalian

Clarence Thomas, Roman Catholic

Stephen G. Breyer, Jewish

John G. Roberts, Roman Catholic

Samuel A. Alito, Jr. Roman Catholic

Sonia Sotomayor. Roman Catholic

Elena Kagan , Jewish

Amy Coney Barrett. Roman Catholic

[Neil]

Perhaps when Republicans show more interest in babies and children that are already born (including immigrants) we will take seriously their interest in preserving the rights of non-viable fetuses against the rights of their potential mothers. No one thinks abortion is a "good thing," merely the lesser evil when the mother is not in a position to provide for another child or the fetus is the product of rape, spousal abuse or carries a heavy burden of disease. Abortion is a regrettable necessity to deal with the difficulties of life for many families, particularly the women.

Failing to look after children who are already born, a Republican specialty under the evil Trump, is a much bigger moral problem for our society.

[Neil]

"The police are being killed all the time in this country and not by conservative or republicans."

The policeman killed during Trump's Capitol Insurrection was killed by Republicans. We just don't yet know their names. That was my point. I suspect Greg is secretly proud of the Proud Boys and their like who invaded the Capitol and threatened to kill government officials. Judging from his posts and his picture, he seems just fine with political violence. Be nice to embryos but kill the opposition. We should remove him from all MTJ committees , like his hero Marjorie Greene, Queen of QAnon and head deranged nutjob of the Republican Congressional Delegation.

[gregj410]

We should remove him from all MTJ committees

Typical leftist tactic. We don’t agree with or like what you have to say, we get rid of you. Opposition is a bitch

[Neil]

If someone is unhinged, they don't belong in the decision making process. Marjorie Greene is unhinged.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

If someone is unhinged, they don't belong in the decision making process. Marjorie Greene is unhinged.

Even Mitch made a pretty definitive statement.

[HONDO74]

Covid: Oxford jab offers less S Africa variant protection
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55967767

Oxford-AstraZeneca's vaccine offers "minimal protection" against mild disease from the South Africa variant, scientists say early trials suggest.

A new study, not yet peer reviewed, involved about 2,000 people who were on average 31 years old.

But Prof Sarah Gilbert, Oxford lead vaccine developer, said vaccines should still protect against severe disease.

She said developers were likely to have a modified Oxford jab by the autumn to combat the South Africa variant.

Meanwhile, vaccine minister Nadhim Zahawi told the BBC's Andrew Marr that a booster in the autumn and annual vaccines could be required to combat variants.

More than 100 cases of the South Africa variant have been found in the UK.