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Re: vaccine

Postby robert. » Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:06 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
robert. wrote:I think you’ll be lucky to see 50 percent vaccinated.


Eventually vaccination will be a condition for attending school and employment.

Maybe in 3 years. As of now people can use philosophical and religious differences. Don’t forget my body my choice. Im sure this will play out for years. People with the vaccine might get tax credits or may be a bigger stimulus check. Time will tell
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Re: vaccine

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:03 pm

robert. wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
robert. wrote:I think you’ll be lucky to see 50 percent vaccinated.


Eventually vaccination will be a condition for attending school and employment.

Maybe in 3 years. As of now people can use philosophical and religious differences. Don’t forget my body my choice.


Yes, they can, and they can also be unemployed, denied access to businesses, denied health insurance, etc. as they pose a public safety hazard to others.
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Re: vaccine

Postby robert. » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:40 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
robert. wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
Eventually vaccination will be a condition for attending school and employment.

Maybe in 3 years. As of now people can use philosophical and religious differences. Don’t forget my body my choice.


Yes, they can, and they can also be unemployed, denied access to businesses, denied health insurance, etc. as they pose a public safety hazard to others.

How will businesses know about my vaccines or lack off it? Are you asking for people to show medical records to enter a store?
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Re: vaccine

Postby Neil » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:46 pm

I'm guessing vaccination might well be required to attend school or work, but is unlikely to be required for access to businesses or public places. If the virus becomes more lethal, that's certainly a possibility, but I don't think it's likely under current circumstances. There's no question that large numbers of people are refusing the vaccine or deciding to wait, even amongst healthcare workers. We have a 15% refusal rate which isn't too bad, but our other area system seems to be much higher. Unfortunate is the only word I can come up with for the situation. We are also short of vaccines for vaccinating patients at high risk at present, having done all our workers.
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Re: vaccine

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:11 pm

Neil wrote:I'm guessing vaccination might well be required to attend school or work, but is unlikely to be required for access to businesses or public places.


While unlikely, also not impossible, and just like any other refusal of services that are currently accepted as legal.

Unfortunate is the only word I can come up with for the situation. We are also short of vaccines for vaccinating patients at high risk at present, having done all our workers.


Yes, unfortunate; the nice word. I drove by the medical center this morning while out getting gas, and saw the huge line out onto the road. I did a quick check as to my own status for vaccination and in sum, "come back later" was the result. I'm also not altogether what value remains in expending or expanding resources on testing as this point; we're so past getting this under any kind of control that all the effort and funding there might be better spent on vaccine distribution.
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Re: vaccine

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:11 pm

Congressman who had second COVID-19 vaccine dose tests positive for virus
Rep. Stephen Lynch tested positive on Friday

A Massachusetts congressman tested positive coronavirus just a few weeks after receiving the second of two doses of the Pfizer vaccine.

Molly Rose Tarpey, the communications director for Rep. Stephen Lynch, told Fox News on Saturday that the lawmaker received the second jab and tested negative for COVID-19 before attending President Biden's inauguration in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 20.

On Friday, Lynch, D-Mass., received a positive test result for coronavirus after a staff member in his Boston office also contracted the virus.

Lynch is the second member of the state’s congressional delegation to test positive in as many days. On Thursday, Democratic Rep. Lori Trahan announced she had tested positive after repeatedly testing negative.

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Re: vaccine

Postby rogruth » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:42 pm

That is a little confusing.
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Re: vaccine

Postby Neil » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:46 pm

Testing positive for viral RNA is very different from being sick. Not confusing if somewhat surprising. People doing the reporting don’t have complete information. People doing the testing may not either. Not a big worry at this point.
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Re: vaccine

Postby rogruth » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:48 pm

If I understand Rufus correctly, it does seem that further testing of people to see if they have the virus might be stopped to allow using the facilities and personnel to give the vaccine more quickly.
I don't know how this fits with the post by Neil above.
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Re: vaccine

Postby Neil » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:24 pm

Testing people who aren’t sick now isn’t much use. Testing and treating early disease with monoclonal antibody would be my choice. Everyone else gets vaccinated ASAP.
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Re: vaccine

Postby rogruth » Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:32 pm

Neil wrote:Testing people who aren’t sick now isn’t much use. Testing and treating early disease with monoclonal antibody would be my choice. Everyone else gets vaccinated ASAP.

Sounds good to me.
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Re: vaccine

Postby gregj410 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:56 pm

HONDO74 wrote:Congressman who had second COVID-19 vaccine dose tests positive for virus
Rep. Stephen Lynch tested positive on Friday

A Massachusetts congressman tested positive coronavirus just a few weeks after receiving the second of two doses of the Pfizer vaccine.

Molly Rose Tarpey, the communications director for Rep. Stephen Lynch, told Fox News on Saturday that the lawmaker received the second jab and tested negative for COVID-19 before attending President Biden's inauguration in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 20.

On Friday, Lynch, D-Mass., received a positive test result for coronavirus after a staff member in his Boston office also contracted the virus.

Lynch is the second member of the state’s congressional delegation to test positive in as many days. On Thursday, Democratic Rep. Lori Trahan announced she had tested positive after repeatedly testing negative.


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Re: vaccine

Postby Neil » Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:30 am

"Pretty sure that was Donald Trumps fault."

You sure seem obsessed with Donald Trump, as Hondo pointed out :).
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Re: vaccine

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:10 am

Neil wrote:Testing people who aren’t sick now isn’t much use. Testing and treating early disease with monoclonal antibody would be my choice. Everyone else gets vaccinated ASAP.


If all that were being done at the pace that was repeatedly promised we'd be in a good position, but we're all waiting now for everything thanks to there not being a distribution system in place across the country nor anywhere near adequate supplies. Huge hole left to fill in now.....

So, nothing really changes for most people; sit at home, isolate, watch the snow, read a book, and put another log in the fire.
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Re: vaccine

Postby v8vega » Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:17 am

I'm in the high risk group due to my age. But getting the shot so far in Communist Calif. is near impossible, a all day wait and then maybe. There is a recall petition for the governor that has nearly enough signatures and he is worried. He has president dreams


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