A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....2

[chuck]

The list of tunnels is from the closing report on the South Penn construction back in 1885.

[rogruth]

Chuck,
Interesting story about the test track. Thanks for posting.

[chuck]

You're welcome.

Photo from a site on the tunnels of the Penn Turnpike. Select blue mountain and the click to image #3. It's the same site but apparently a different time. Image is "quoted" as the "East Blue Tunnel".

https://bridgehunter.com/pa/franklin/blue-mountain-tunnel/

[Rufus T. Firefly]

The list of tunnels is from the closing report on the South Penn construction back in 1885.

That may be, but the locals may have called it otherwise -- the photographer was Charles Laughlin of Shippensburg. Knowing that area, places and properties acquire local names that seemingly last forever. My place in PA, not all that far from there over the mountain from Roxbury, is still referred to by my grandfather's name (not my last name...) despite his being gone now for better than 40 years. Local names for those mountains also don't echo the tunnel names at all.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

You're welcome.

Photo from a site on the tunnels of the Penn Turnpike. Select blue mountain and the click to image #3. It's the same site but apparently a different time. Image is "quoted" as the "East Blue Tunnel".

I've posted several other RPPCs of these tunnels in this area in various stages of construction, abandonment, and then reconstruction to the PA TP use.

[chuck]

They aren't the same photo and it looks like they were not taken at the same time. There are subtle differences in the debris in the foreground that goes beyond differences in exactly where the pictures were taken albeit probably no more than 10 feet apart. The one with "Roxbury" could have been taken by someone local and labeled as such. The "South Penn" seems to have "officially" designated it as Blue Mountain (the hill it was being bored through) at least in the documentation I have come across both on-line and in my own library.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

They aren't the same photo and it looks like they were not taken at the same time. There are subtle differences in the debris in the foreground that goes beyond differences in exactly where the pictures were taken albeit probably no more than 10 feet apart. The one with "Roxbury" could have been taken by someone local and labeled as such. The "South Penn" seems to have "officially" designated it as Blue Mountain (the hill it was being bored through) at least in the documentation I have come across both on-line and in my own library.

As noted; the RPPC was taken by C. Laughlin - one of 3-4K such cards in his catalog of work; there is an entire grouping of PA TP cards that were taken far later that the earlier tunnel cards. Somewhere long ago I posted a photo of a family outing picnic to the Roxbury tunnel. Might have to dig that one up; have to rescan that one in. Mountain range there has always been referred to at the Timmons with the one directly in front of if being Back Mtn. The old maps I have list those names on them. Everyone around there refers to "going over the Timmons..." BTW, great drive on 641 except at night or in snow/ice.

I also have the books on the South Penn. That things and names do not match up with the locals tells you a little something.

[chuck]

I also have the books on the South Penn. That things and names do not match up with the locals tells you a little something.

Oh yeah. That whole South Penn was a true cluster "F". False starts by multiple players, Vanderbilt's sneaky coercions, having to get JP Morgan to step in and stop the insanity... We did eventually wind up with the Pennsylvania Turnpike about 40-50 years later. Of course we are now STUCK with the Pennsylvania turnpike and all of it's foibles and no easy fix. A highway for the 50's, aka 1950's as we enter the third decade of the 21st century.

Cest le Vie.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

We did eventually wind up with the Pennsylvania Turnpike about 40-50 years later. Of course we are now STUCK with the Pennsylvania turnpike and all of it's foibles and no easy fix. A highway for the 50's, aka 1950's as we enter the third decade of the 21st century.

Well, stuck with it vs. not having it........maybe an infrastucture bill upgrade candidate,

[Rufus T. Firefly]

[MurphOnMillerAve]

It's nice seeing such a tower situated properly in a classic setting. Thanks!

[chuck]

There is a second tower in the background to the left where the second set of crossings occur in this extended/stretched wye. I think this is the old Erie line near the branch to Morris Run which is just to the east. The community is Blossburg. Most of the old rail line is now under US 15. There are a couple of sections of the old ROW that are still visible. There was a split to the east to Morris Run and to the west to Arnot. The line served as a link to Corning, NY, to the north. I think that there is a loco moving downgrade to the lowest level of track just to the right of the tower (the blurry thing).

[Rufus T. Firefly]

[Rufus T. Firefly]

[J. S. Bach]

Feeding time at the zoo?