A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....2

[rogruth]

Does seem to be a flood.

[chuck]

Maps of the town from 2011.

https://digital.libraries.psu.edu/digital/collection/maps1/id/2453

There was a large lumber yard to supply wood for the Bayless pulp and paper mill in the community.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Here's a pre-disaster card for you to look at.....

[chuck]

That's the first bridge that collapsed in 1907 because of really poor design/engineering work.

What it was "supposed" to look like.



This is the one that claimed the lives of 75 workers, about one half were Mohawk iron workers from a nearby tribe.

The second bridge collapse was in 1916. Just the centered cantilevered section wound up at the bottom of the river when the hoisting equipment failed. The bridge was finally completed in 1919. The bridge is in need of serious maintenance and there is a long running battle as to who should/will pay for it.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

That's the first bridge that collapsed in 1907 because of really poor design/engineering work.

This is the one that claimed the lives of 75 workers, about one half were Mohawk iron workers from a nearby tribe.

The second bridge collapse was in 1916. Just the centered cantilevered section wound up at the bottom of the river when the hoisting equipment failed. The bridge was finally completed in 1919. The bridge is in need of serious maintenance and there is a long running battle as to who should/will pay for it.

Good book on the subject: The Bridge at Quebec by William D. Middleton

[chuck]

He has a lot of good books to his name. I don't have that one but I love the "When the Steam Railroads Electrified" and "Landmarks on the Iron Road" (Bridges and Tunnels in North America).

[Rufus T. Firefly]

He has a lot of good books to his name. I don't have that one but I love the "When the Steam Railroads Electrified" and "Landmarks on the Iron Road" (Bridges and Tunnels in North America).

I have several of his (most of the trolley/traction related ones), but the one on the bridge took me a while years ago to find as a good price. The good old days that were not all that good.

[chuck]

I used to love perusing old/second book stores, especially in New York City. You could find all sorts of out of print gems. Most of the ones in Ann arbor have disappeared. I wonder if the second hand book store in Nyack is still around? Can't remember the name or even the street. They used a staircase to the basement as a storage shelf Kids liked going there when they were younger when we would go out east to visit my mom. Good mix of old and new, good children's section.

As convenient as it is too much of the internet stuff has taken on the air/aroma of eBay.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I used to love perusing old/second book stores............

Yes, got a few really classic OOP text books that I still have on the shelf in the home office.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

What air travel used to be like......

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Air travel?
Trains, too?
Also, says "clipper ships" (?)

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Air travel?
Trains, too?
Also, says "clipper ships" (?)

Yes, Air Travel - Boeing 314 Clipper Ship for transoceanic travel in late 30's up to WW2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_314_Clipper

[chuck]

That type of service was common on the lighter than air ships like the Graf Zeppelin.

From the wikipedia article Rufus cited:

The standard of luxury on Pan American's Boeing 314s has rarely been matched on heavier-than-air transport since then; they were a form of travel for the super-rich, priced at $675 (equivalent to $12,000 in 2019) round trip from New York to Southampton.

Impressive feat of engineering. Boeing found a balance point of speed and fuel economy that allowed them to fly long distances but at a significant cost. Plane normally flew between 155-188 mph. It still took 19 hours to fly to Hawaii from San Francisco, but you could fly and it beat 5-7 days on a boat!

[Rufus T. Firefly]

It still took 19 hours to fly to Hawaii from San Francisco, but you could fly and it beat 5-7 days on a boat!

Apparently they had sleeper berths on them like the railroads.

[chuck]

Yes

The seats could be converted into 36 bunks for overnight accommodation

The 314s had a lounge and dining area, and the galleys were crewed by chefs from four-star hotels. Men and women were provided with separate dressing rooms, and white-coated stewards served five and six-course meals with gleaming silver service.

Very much like a first class Pullman service, just way more expensive. Very high crew to passenger ratio, almost 1 to 3. Only 12 were built. None have survived. They were either scrapped or lost to accidents. A full scale replica is part of a museum in Limerick, Ireland.