Covid: UK variant could drive 'rapid growth' in US cases, CDC warns
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55684878
A highly contagious coronavirus variant first detected in the UK could become the dominant strain in the US by March, health officials have said.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) warned of "rapid growth" of the variant in coming weeks.
It said such a spike could further threaten health systems already strained by a winter Covid surge.
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Covid in California: The state is struggling to contain the virus
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55578098
California was praised for acting swiftly to contain the coronavirus last spring. Now more than 31,000 people have died of the virus in the state. What went wrong?
California was the first to issue a state-wide stay-at-home order, and experts at the time predicted the pandemic would peak here in April with fewer than 2,000 lives lost.
But since November, deaths have surged by more than 1,000%. In Los Angeles alone, nearly 2,000 people died this week.
Makeshift morgues have been set up across the state, ICUs are full, oxygen is being rationed and ambulance teams have been told not to transport those unlikely to survive the night because hospitals are too full.
Makeshift morgues have been set up across the state, ICUs are full, oxygen is being rationed and ambulance teams have been told not to transport those unlikely to survive the night because hospitals are too full.
Disneyland, which has been closed since March, is now being turned into a massive vaccination centre, along with Dodger Stadium, in the hopes of controlling what's become a super surge.
Why is California in such dire Covid straits?
"Fatigue," says Dr Neha Nanda, of the University of Southern California's Keck School of Medicine. "It's multifaceted, but fatigue is a big reason why."
Southern California and Los Angeles are the hardest hit regions in California and the United States right now.
As exhausted frontline medical workers continue their fight, the fear is that things will continue to get worse.
As the virus spreads, it's likely mutating more than we know, says Dr Neha Nanda.
"Maybe the bigger the place, the more variation," she says.
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55578098
California was praised for acting swiftly to contain the coronavirus last spring. Now more than 31,000 people have died of the virus in the state. What went wrong?
California was the first to issue a state-wide stay-at-home order, and experts at the time predicted the pandemic would peak here in April with fewer than 2,000 lives lost.
But since November, deaths have surged by more than 1,000%. In Los Angeles alone, nearly 2,000 people died this week.
Makeshift morgues have been set up across the state, ICUs are full, oxygen is being rationed and ambulance teams have been told not to transport those unlikely to survive the night because hospitals are too full.
Makeshift morgues have been set up across the state, ICUs are full, oxygen is being rationed and ambulance teams have been told not to transport those unlikely to survive the night because hospitals are too full.
Disneyland, which has been closed since March, is now being turned into a massive vaccination centre, along with Dodger Stadium, in the hopes of controlling what's become a super surge.
Why is California in such dire Covid straits?
"Fatigue," says Dr Neha Nanda, of the University of Southern California's Keck School of Medicine. "It's multifaceted, but fatigue is a big reason why."
Southern California and Los Angeles are the hardest hit regions in California and the United States right now.
As exhausted frontline medical workers continue their fight, the fear is that things will continue to get worse.
As the virus spreads, it's likely mutating more than we know, says Dr Neha Nanda.
"Maybe the bigger the place, the more variation," she says.
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https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/12/jos ... sappeared/
The “COVID” deaths the CDC has been reporting are actually a combination of pneumonia, flu and COVID-deaths, under a new category listed as “PIC” (pneumonia, Influenza, COVID).
Now isn’t that interesting how they’re conveniently lumped together
I guess the next shoe to drop is the covid vaccine is actually a flu shot
The “COVID” deaths the CDC has been reporting are actually a combination of pneumonia, flu and COVID-deaths, under a new category listed as “PIC” (pneumonia, Influenza, COVID).
Now isn’t that interesting how they’re conveniently lumped together
I guess the next shoe to drop is the covid vaccine is actually a flu shot
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Re: Coronavirus:
gregj410 wrote:MurphOnMillerAve wrote:All of that will prove-out in due time. Don't be too disappointed if he succeeds well, okay?
I won’t be disappointed at all. The difference between you and I is a can separate a persons ability to get something done from their personality. You can’t see past President Trumps personality to see what he has accomplished regardless of wether or not you agree with his accomplishments.
Biden in office 47 years, ran for President 3 times and miraculously pulled out more votes in various counties in key states than the beloved savior of the world Barry Obama to beat Trump. Even if it’s true do you think he’ll govern any differently than he has in 47 years or do you simply like his personality more than Trumps?
The real question is wether you’ll hold Biden to the same standard that you’ve held President Trump to.
Depends on his barber.
(Nah, I'm jus' messin' with ya. You made some good points I will think about further .)
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"Now isn’t that interesting how they’re conveniently lumped together"
It's only convenient if you are not one of the 300-400,000 people who died this year who wouldn't have died in 2019. For someone who isn't involved in caring for these patients, you are awfully opinionated about what's happening. Perhaps because you are listening to ideologic nutjobs who have opinions but no experience or knowledge but lots of belief structures they need to support?
Believe me, none of the health care workers, public health professionals, etc. who are reporting these numbers want to see more people dying for some nitwit political reason. Quite the opposite. Our lives have been consumed with trying to stop suffering and death, not exaggerating it. No one dies of coronavirus infection by and large, although a few do. They die of the body's reaction to that infection. Hence the vast proportion of deaths amongst the very old, whose immune systems have an extreme and lethal response to the inflammation.
None of these deaths are flu. We have very good tests and treatment for influenza. There is virtually no influenza anywhere in the USA to speak of. So there are no deaths due to influenza right now. Anyone who says these are flu deaths is genuinely misinformed, stupid or intentionally lying to you.
People aren't in general dying primarily of pneumonia, as with bacterial infection. They are dying of the body's over reaction to coronavirus infection that destroys the lungs, kidneys, etc.
This guy Lew Rockwell you are citing is an idiot who doesn't know what the duck he is talking about. His explanation of what scientists are thinking about influenza is naive and shows his lack of scientific and clinical understanding of infectious disease. There are, of course, ignorant and stupid doctors (see under Scott Atlas). You've found one. Instead of believing the data, they try to make the data fit their political beliefs. "Anti-State" is apparently his highest priority listed at the top of his pathetic website. More like anti-rational thought and anti-science when these conflict with his religious beliefs.
It's only convenient if you are not one of the 300-400,000 people who died this year who wouldn't have died in 2019. For someone who isn't involved in caring for these patients, you are awfully opinionated about what's happening. Perhaps because you are listening to ideologic nutjobs who have opinions but no experience or knowledge but lots of belief structures they need to support?
Believe me, none of the health care workers, public health professionals, etc. who are reporting these numbers want to see more people dying for some nitwit political reason. Quite the opposite. Our lives have been consumed with trying to stop suffering and death, not exaggerating it. No one dies of coronavirus infection by and large, although a few do. They die of the body's reaction to that infection. Hence the vast proportion of deaths amongst the very old, whose immune systems have an extreme and lethal response to the inflammation.
None of these deaths are flu. We have very good tests and treatment for influenza. There is virtually no influenza anywhere in the USA to speak of. So there are no deaths due to influenza right now. Anyone who says these are flu deaths is genuinely misinformed, stupid or intentionally lying to you.
People aren't in general dying primarily of pneumonia, as with bacterial infection. They are dying of the body's over reaction to coronavirus infection that destroys the lungs, kidneys, etc.
This guy Lew Rockwell you are citing is an idiot who doesn't know what the duck he is talking about. His explanation of what scientists are thinking about influenza is naive and shows his lack of scientific and clinical understanding of infectious disease. There are, of course, ignorant and stupid doctors (see under Scott Atlas). You've found one. Instead of believing the data, they try to make the data fit their political beliefs. "Anti-State" is apparently his highest priority listed at the top of his pathetic website. More like anti-rational thought and anti-science when these conflict with his religious beliefs.
Neil
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MurphOnMillerAve wrote:gregj410 wrote:MurphOnMillerAve wrote:All of that will prove-out in due time. Don't be too disappointed if he succeeds well, okay?
I won’t be disappointed at all. The difference between you and I is a can separate a persons ability to get something done from their personality. You can’t see past President Trumps personality to see what he has accomplished regardless of wether or not you agree with his accomplishments.
Biden in office 47 years, ran for President 3 times and miraculously pulled out more votes in various counties in key states than the beloved savior of the world Barry Obama to beat Trump. Even if it’s true do you think he’ll govern any differently than he has in 47 years or do you simply like his personality more than Trumps?
The real question is wether you’ll hold Biden to the same standard that you’ve held President Trump to.
Depends on his barber.
(Nah, I'm jus' messin' with ya. You made some good points I will think about further .)
No you won’t. Your vitriolic posts toward the President continue to prove that your not capable of thinking beyond what the media tells you to think.
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We know Dr Neil if their ideology doesn’t line up with your brilliance they’re idiots, a common theme in your posts.
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gregj410 wrote:MurphOnMillerAve wrote:All of that will prove-out in due time. Don't be too disappointed if he succeeds well, okay?
do you simply like his personality more than Trumps?
The real question is wether you’ll hold Biden to the same standard that you’ve held President Trump to.
That's all a presidential election is. a personality contest. Trumps personality crushed him. Not his actions.
I spend entirely too many hours a day tying my shoes
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Your vitriolic posts toward the President continue to prove that your not capable of thinking beyond what the media tells you to think.
We know Dr Neil if their ideology doesn’t line up with your brilliance they’re idiots, a common theme in your posts.
I don't always agree with what you say or how you say it, but I have to admit, your command of one liners (zingers) amazes me.
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Trumps personality crushed him. Not his actions.
Well said and true.
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"We know Dr Neil if their ideology doesn’t line up with your brilliance they’re idiots, a common theme in your posts."
If they are in denial about the facts, they are idiots. Denial of facts has become our national plague, thanks to our high achieving President and his total disregard for reality, and his total ignorance about important stuff. There are facts that are debatable and then there are facts that are pretty much irrefutable. It's a fact that the moon isn't made out of green cheese. It's a fact that coronavirus is killing hundreds of thousands of people who likely would have lived longer. It's a fact that influenza has disappeared this winter. It's a fact that Donald Trump lost a fair election
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If they are in denial about the facts, they are idiots. Denial of facts has become our national plague, thanks to our high achieving President and his total disregard for reality, and his total ignorance about important stuff. There are facts that are debatable and then there are facts that are pretty much irrefutable. It's a fact that the moon isn't made out of green cheese. It's a fact that coronavirus is killing hundreds of thousands of people who likely would have lived longer. It's a fact that influenza has disappeared this winter. It's a fact that Donald Trump lost a fair election
.Neil
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Free and fair elections are gone.
The media destroyed Trump.
The media destroyed Trump.
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I have to ask - if free and fair elections are gone, how will our government proceed? Would you like an oligarchy, or a simple dictatorship? Or just have an armed insurrection and let the winner govern?
I have heard that the right wing believes it is liberal judges that failed to find the massive fraud alleged by DJT.
On the California Covid - we are simply holding super spreader events. The battle cry is "freedom" - some think that freedom ends where it impacts the health of others. The current problem is the overload of medical facilities, and a dramatic increase in death rates.
San Diego has a two hour evening local newscast devoted to bashing business closures and restricted school athletic competition. It is interrupted only by the weather report and sports. Two hours! Each night!
I have heard that the right wing believes it is liberal judges that failed to find the massive fraud alleged by DJT.
On the California Covid - we are simply holding super spreader events. The battle cry is "freedom" - some think that freedom ends where it impacts the health of others. The current problem is the overload of medical facilities, and a dramatic increase in death rates.
San Diego has a two hour evening local newscast devoted to bashing business closures and restricted school athletic competition. It is interrupted only by the weather report and sports. Two hours! Each night!
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There have been some reports in our area that one of the reasons the vaccine is not being applied quicker is a shortage of personnel to do the job.
Could this be part of the problem?
Could this be part of the problem?
roger
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bob turner wrote:I have to ask - if free and fair elections are gone, how will our government proceed? Would you like an oligarchy, or a simple dictatorship? Or just have an armed insurrection and let the winner govern?
Seems that some want a fascist white supremacist dictatorship.........and then to call that freedom and America.
I have heard that the right wing believes it is liberal judges that failed to find the massive fraud alleged by DJT.
The right wing loves to find excuses for their own failures and has been unwilling/incapable of accept responsibility for its actions for several decades now. Everything is always someone else's fault - it's like they have all become a room full of 13 year old girls....
On the California Covid - we are simply holding super spreader events. The battle cry is "freedom" - some think that freedom ends where it impacts the health of others. The current problem is the overload of medical facilities, and a dramatic increase in death rates.
Southern Cal is getting uglier on the virus front daily.
San Diego has a two hour evening local newscast devoted to bashing business closures and restricted school athletic competition. It is interrupted only by the weather report and sports. Two hours! Each night!
Sad. There's actually so much more going on the world outside that local microcosm.
What if lollipops moaned every time we licked them?
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