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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....2

Postby chuck » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:54 pm

There are a number of old railroad bridges in that area, one is till in use. The CVRR bridge has been abandoned. The bridge in the post card was the third crossing the CVRR employed over the river in that area. The previous two were wood structures. The current stone arch bridge was build encapsulating the previous bridge's piers.

https://historicbridges.org/bridges/browser/?bridgebrowser=pennsylvania/cumberland_valley_rr/#photosvideos

There is a drawing/photo of a historical marker showing the third/iron under truss bridge that is featured in the post card.

I think the piers you saw are part of another "abandoned" crossing. This one never got completed. It would have been part of the "South Penn". JP Morgan brokered a deal between the Pennsylvania and NYC to stop construction of the South Penn (ROW would later be basis of the Penn Turnpike).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pennsylvania_Railroad_Bridge_(Harrisburg,_Pennsylvania)
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....2

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:01 pm

chuck wrote: The previous two were wood structures.


There are also a set of postal cards depicting that bridge as well. Think I even posted one not all that long ago, :wink:

Might want to check Harwood's book on the South Penn, too.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....2

Postby chuck » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:14 pm

"Vanderbilt's Folly, a History of the Pennsylvania Turnpike" by William Shank has a ground level photo of those piers on the inside back cover. This is a small paperback, approx 48 pages long. It concentrates mainly on the tunnels that were constructed (or at least started) and how they were worked into building the turnpike.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....2

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:30 am

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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....2

Postby healey36 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:25 am

One might think that the burning of Chambersburg was a preliminary to the fight at Gettysburg, a time when much of Lee's army was roaming around south-central Pennsylvania. In fact, it occurred more than a year later, July, 1864, just a couple weeks after the battle at Monocacy Junction in Maryland (unrelated). At a time when Grant and Meade were laying siege to Petersburg, Virginia, some Confederate forces were still operating north of the Potomac. Grant brought the concept of "total war" to the fight in 1864, culminating in Sherman's march to the sea in November/December. Organized warfare was never the same after that. Chambersburg might have been a precursor of what was to come.

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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....2

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:31 am

healey36 wrote:One might think that the burning of Chambersburg was a preliminary to the fight at Gettysburg, a time when much of Lee's army was roaming around south-central Pennsylvania. In fact, it occurred more than a year later, July, 1864, just a couple weeks after the battle at Monocacy Junction in Maryland (unrelated).


And, it was not the 1st time that the Confederacy had visited Chambersburg. The burning was attributed to Jubal Early wanting revenge for the burning Atlanta. He ended up being found guilty of war crimes and spent his life after the war outside of the US. Several good books on the Civil War in that part of PA that addresses those parts other than Gettysburg. If you can score a copy of "When War Passed This Way" by Conrad, you'll learn a lot of local history in Franklin Co. Somewhere on the shelf I've got a copy of Seibert's "The Burning of Chambersburg" that was published in 1865.....but it's the German print version.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....2

Postby rogruth » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:23 am

What is the tractor pulling?
I like the headlight.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....2

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:28 am

rogruth wrote:What is the tractor pulling?
I like the headlight.


No idea! From that angle it's hard to tell; thought there was a grader blade there, but.............maybe someone else here?

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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....2

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:38 am

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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....2

Postby rogruth » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:48 am

Rufus,
The above photo shows time sent (?) as 8:38. I recieved it at 7:40 EST.
Is your computer time off or are you in a different time zone?
I know that leaves an opening for an interesting answer.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....2

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:56 am

rogruth wrote:Rufus,
The above photo shows time sent (?) as 8:38. I recieved it at 7:40 EST.
Is your computer time off or are you in a different time zone?
I know that leaves an opening for an interesting answer.


No idea. We're in the same time zone and it's not 8 am here yet according to my computer - setting in the forum not right maybe?
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....2

Postby rogruth » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:34 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
rogruth wrote:Rufus,
The above photo shows time sent (?) as 8:38. I recieved it at 7:40 EST.
Is your computer time off or are you in a different time zone?
I know that leaves an opening for an interesting answer.


No idea. We're in the same time zone and it's not 8 am here yet according to my computer - setting in the forum not right maybe?

I thought maybe you had come back from the future.
I see the forum time is wrong.
I posted this at 9:35.
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Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....2

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:46 am

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