Coronavirus:

[HONDO74]

If you need more convincing of the utility of masks, social distancing (avoiding indoors time with people you don't live with), closing down outdoor events with large numbers of unmasked individuals, here's some data. Peak New York cases per 100,000 people was 297.5. In the unmasked state of Florida, 315.5, about the same, but a much less dense population. In the Dakotas, with resolutely political and just plain stupid leadership, the rates have not peaked yet. Despite very low population densities, the current rates are 767 and 813 for South and North Dakota. A totally unnecessary disaster and tragedy for many innocent citizens who could have avoided infection, at least in the short term.

I have come to the conclusion that leadership doesn't mater Because the people are still going to do as they damn well please in this country. The same thing is happening in Europe where they are protesting the mask and the lock down.So it doesn't matter if it's NYC or tim buck 2

[Chris Webster]

Five States Set New Coronavirus Case Records as U.S. Tops 100,000 Cases in One Day for First Time

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I have come to the conclusion that leadership doesn't mater Because the people are still going to do as they damn well please in this country.

Disagree - there's no reason for leadership to actually encourage stupidity.

[HONDO74]

I have come to the conclusion that leadership doesn't mater Because the people are still going to do as they damn well please in this country.

Disagree - there's no reason for leadership to actually encourage stupidity.

You mean like Governor of New York State, Andrew M. Cuomo and and the Mayor of NYC Bill de Blasio back in January that encouraged people to continue life as usual.

And what happened with our fabulous CDC that was supposed to have prepaid this country for a pandemic !5 thousand employees and billions of dollars Flat on their asses. Even their labs were contaminated so the test kits were junk. Plenty of blame to go around for all of this....

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I have come to the conclusion that leadership doesn't mater Because the people are still going to do as they damn well please in this country.

Disagree - there's no reason for leadership to actually encourage stupidity.

You mean like Governor of New York State, Andrew M. Cuomo and and the Mayor of NYC Bill de Blasio back in January that encouraged people to continue life as usual.

Actually I had at the top of my list Trump and Pence, and the Gov's of Mississippi, Alabama, S.Carolina, Georgia, and Texas all of whom have either denied that there is any health risk, refuse or reversed shut-downs, refused to wear masks, etc. It never ceases to amaze that politicians that show total disdain for their people get re-elected, but it happens every 2 years like clockwork. How Mitchell McConnell gets relected while totally neglecting his own state is impressive.

[HONDO74]

Disagree - there's no reason for leadership to actually encourage stupidity.

You mean like Governor of New York State, Andrew M. Cuomo and and the Mayor of NYC Bill de Blasio back in January that encouraged people to continue life as usual.

Actually I had at the top of my list Trump and Pence, and the Gov's of Mississippi, Alabama, S.Carolina, Georgia, and Texas all of whom have either denied that there is any health risk, refuse or reversed shut-downs, refused to wear masks, etc. It never ceases to amaze that politicians that show total disdain for their people get re-elected, but it happens every 2 years like clockwork. How Mitchell McConnell gets relected while totally neglecting his own state is impressive.

That's what happens when you only have a pair of BLUE tinted glasses....

[Rufus T. Firefly]

You mean like Governor of New York State, Andrew M. Cuomo and and the Mayor of NYC Bill de Blasio back in January that encouraged people to continue life as usual.

Actually I had at the top of my list Trump and Pence, and the Gov's of Mississippi, Alabama, S.Carolina, Georgia, and Texas all of whom have either denied that there is any health risk, refuse or reversed shut-downs, refused to wear masks, etc. It never ceases to amaze that politicians that show total disdain for their people get re-elected, but it happens every 2 years like clockwork. How Mitchell McConnell gets relected while totally neglecting his own state is impressive.

That's what happens when you only have a pair of BLUE tinted glasses....

Keep guessing; mine are neither blue nor your red.

[HONDO74]

Actually I had at the top of my list Trump and Pence, and the Gov's of Mississippi, Alabama, S.Carolina, Georgia, and Texas all of whom have either denied that there is any health risk, refuse or reversed shut-downs, refused to wear masks, etc. It never ceases to amaze that politicians that show total disdain for their people get re-elected, but it happens every 2 years like clockwork. How Mitchell McConnell gets relected while totally neglecting his own state is impressive.

That's what happens when you only have a pair of BLUE tinted glasses....

Keep guessing; mine are neither blue nor your red.

Mine are actually tinted a light brown or gray. They do lighten up inside.

[healey36]

Maryland positives were nearly 1200 yesterday. Up nearly 150% in a week.

[HONDO74]

Coronavirus Updates: NYC reports uptick in COVID cases on Staten Island
https://abc7ny.com/health/covid-updates ... d/7666909/

New travel rules go into effect
New York State's new travel entry rules went into effect Wednesday. Under the new system, people have to get tested within three days prior to arrival. Then they have to quarantine for at least three days.
On day four, they have to get another test. The rules replace a requirement to quarantine for 14 days.

Murphy says NJ going in 'wrong direction'
New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy announced Wednesday 2,472 new positive cases and 9 additional deaths, with a positivity rate of 8.22%. "We are not out of the woods on COVID folks," Murphy said. "Another bad day of numbers. This is going in the wrong direction, and we are going to have to stay together. And by the way, it should be the ultimate bi-partisan responsibility. And i promise you, I know that's exactly how we are going to treat this."

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Maryland positives were nearly 1200 yesterday. Up nearly 150% in a week.

Up over 100k country wide yesterday,

[HONDO74]

Maryland positives were nearly 1200 yesterday. Up nearly 150% in a week.

Up over 100k country wide yesterday,

Not to worry Our new President Joe Biden has a plan that will fix everything and he will have all new scientific advisers to assist him. Happy days are here again....

[healey36]

Presuming he wins, he'll probably have a few of the same advisors. As for a plan, it sounds like a strategy of more aggressive testing, localized lockdowns, and a mask mandate. No one is going to put up with a coast-to-coast lockdown. We'll all die first...probably.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Maryland positives were nearly 1200 yesterday. Up nearly 150% in a week.

Up over 100k country wide yesterday,

Not to worry Our new President Joe Biden has a plan that will fix everything and he will have all new scientific advisers to assist him. Happy days are here again....

Honestly, he can't because of the failures since February; the opportunity was there on a platter and if it had been grasped this election would have been over yesterday. But that horse left the barn a long time ago. All Biden can do is mitigate the spread and ramp up the response. But no one can fix "everything".

Actually I doubt that the advisors will change entirely; some of the current ones are quite good - appointees that are the problems almost certainly should be packing their bags, and getting their credentials in order to get those cushy academic appointments and think tank jobs while writing their books. But some of those appointees are quite good. The real problem is ignoring the advice of advisors.

[HONDO74]

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Honestly, he can't because of the failures since February; the opportunity was there on a platter and if it had been grasped
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up into February Pelosi and the democrats were all involved with the impeachment along with the Liberal media as the people were completely distracted. The same time that Cuomo And De Blasio were telling the people in New York to go have fun. New York was the hardest hit back then and now they are paying a big price for listening to their incompetent politicians.

Too bad the democrats all had their heads up there asses and didn't spend more time helping the American people. they were too busy trying to get rid of Trump.

Some people will never be able to admit what really happened because it doesn't fit their agenda