Coronavirus:

[Neil]

Toddlers being separated from parents. Camps with inadequate food, sanitation and health care. We're better than this I would like to think.

Encouraging racists, misogynists, xenophobes and similar crazies by equating these anti-social individuals with peaceful citizens exercising their constitutional rights to assembly and petitions for redress of grievances.

Defending statues celebrating the Confederacy and its leaders. These statues were erected specifically to intimidate black people and represent traitors to our country. The Confederacy existed for one reason and one reason only, to defend slavery and the right to extend slavery to new territories in North America. The Confederacy did not attempt to legally dissolve the Union and they fired the first shots of the Civil War, which was probably inevitable given that the Confederacy would have tried to extend slavery throughout the New World, given the chance. Bottom line, to defend the Confederacy as "Southern Heritage" as opposed to traitors to founding principles of the United States is pretty awful. Lincoln did not want to abolish slavery, but he did not want it spread to new states. The Confederacy wanted to extend slavery everywhere. Good vs. evil.

[rogruth]

I once received a lot of information from this topic about the virus.
However it now seems to be purely political and I see no reason to read it anymore.

[gregj410]

constitutional rights to assembly and petitions for redress of grievances.

Ahh the constitution which you stated earlier was archaic relating to the electoral college vote, but conveniently it works for you here???

How do you explain the first step act? Or Donald Trump pardoning Alice Johnson?

[gregj410]

I once received a lot of information from this topic about the virus.
However it now seems to be purely political and I see no reason to read it anymore.

Weren’t you a proponent of thread drift

[Neil]

"Ahh the constitution which you stated earlier was archaic relating to the electoral college vote, but conveniently it works for you here???"

The Electoral College was a device set up for various reasons in 1783 give or take. Like the aspects of the Constitution legitimizing slavery, it has outlived its purpose and justification. The world of the late 18th century is not today's world. Slavery, once tolerated and even praised, is now viewed as an evil of an earlier period in human history. The Electoral College was in part set up to minimize the chances of majority rule oppressing the minority but has become a tool by which the minority thwarts the will of the majority of citizens. The Senate is bad enough with a voter in Wyoming's vote being worth 40 times what a voter in California's vote is worth. Trump lost the election by almost 3 million votes. Enough said. The Constitution is a useful document but it ain't perfect. Right of assembly and petition for redress of grievances still work well in 2020 as they did in 1790.

And as for originalism, that's total crap. None of us really know what people in 1790 did or did not intend. So there are few "absolutes." Folks like Scalia, Thomas and others are just arrogant enough to think they can read the minds of individuals dead over two centuries ago. Total nonsense as an excuse to oppose any changes that are uncomfortable to radical conservatives.

How do you explain the first step act? Or Donald Trump pardoning Alice Johnson?

I didn't say he was the Anti-Christ or totally evil, just kind of leaning in that direction.

[gregj410]

I didn't say he was the Anti-Christ or totally evil, just kind of leaning in that direction.

Well I think you did Neil but I have to say I have a lot more respect for you now that you said that. Looking for the fist bump emoji

[Neil]

Peace and good night. And if Roger has any coronavirus questions, other than Anthony Fauci, I'm probably as good as most to answer them. I know people .

[HONDO74]

[quote="Neil"]

You can despise my politics as much as you want, but if Jesus were around, he'd be on my side without a doubt . /quote]

I doubt that. All the yeas that you had hate in your heart towards Mike Wolf, MTH and Pat Fusco. But Jesus would forgive your transgression. You need to give it a rest. Your hatred for others will destroy you.

You and the democrats will get your chance after Nov 3rd to save the world. My prediction is Trump will not be re-elected.

With all the civil unrest supported by the Democrats. You will have your hands full just keeping the US from imploding.

And Antifa didn't go far enough in Portland with the 2 statues they tore down. They need to go to Egypt and demand the pyramids be tore down . Those were built by slaves. If your going to eradicate slavery you need to do a complete job

ever notice you never see the Africans catching Hell for selling their own people into slavery,,

[gregj410]

Peace and good night. And if Roger has any coronavirus questions, other than Anthony Fauci, I'm probably as good as most to answer them. I know people .

Ok I’ll let him know

[Neil]

"All the yeas that you had hate in your heart towards Mike Wolf, MTH and Pat Fusco."

Your vivid imagination is pretty amazing. I'm a New Yorker. What sounds like hate to you Midwesterners is just a guy ordering a hot dog at Nathan's in Brooklyn or arguing over a parking space in Queens . That said, Mike Wolf and Fusco were not exactly the second coming of Mister Rogers. They had it coming. But I can assure you that I gave absolutely not a second's thought to either of those jerks except when I was skewering them on-line. Couldn't care less otherwise.

I agree with your point that the Africans who sold their enemies into slavery were a gigantic part of the slave trade and get off without as much as a sneer in most histories. Just as Native American violence towards each other's tribes and to white settlers is these days frequently forgotten in the rush to condemn the European settlers, who were also pretty brutal and dishonest in many cases. No shortage of blame to go around, but your point is legitimate.

[bob turner]

Back to the Coronavirus - News is saying a serious spike has occurred. CDC reporting is indicating that we are as low as we have been since June, both in infections and deaths.

I admit - I have not checked Fox - maybe they agree that we are doing quite well, comparatively speaking? I can watch Hannity for exactly ten seconds - Ingraham 15, because she is so attractive.

[gregj410]

Ingraham 15, because she is so attractive.

Well bob...maybe you need to have yourself a little Matha then. I mean she’s a real beaut inside and out.

[robert.]

More testing can also lead to higher numbers. I live in a country with a population of 630,000. We have 6 people hospitalized. None on ventilators.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

More testing can also lead to higher numbers.

Testing does not cause more disease. That sort of logic implies that if we stop doing mammograms that women will stop getting breast cancer.

[robert.]

Then lets see percentages of positives v negatives. Not just positive results.