Coronavirus:

[gregj410]

Your N95 masks

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[Neil]

"They continue to instill fear in the American people by talking about the increase in cases."

Fear is good if it makes you protect yourself and your loved ones by taking simple actions. The alt-right nincompoops, bipartisan nitwit anti-vaxxers and other conspiracy theory lunatics would have you believe the first step in a Communist takeover would be to make people wear masks. It's hard to dignify that sort of moronic thinking with a response, but one simple answer is that people with guns (other than the police and military) are more dangerous to our liberty and safety (kidnaping governors? shooting peaceful demonstrators?) than politicians insisting on reasonable public health measures urged by our medical experts.

As someone who practices medicine in a university teaching hospital, albeit one with a modest number of cases, I can assure you all that this is not the typical seasonal flu. It's not the black death either, but it's causing lots of harm and lots of deaths. The death rate has gone down because younger people are being infected at this stage of things and we have at least two proven effective treatments compared with zero in the spring of 2020. When we have even better, easier treatments (e.g., an orally active antiviral such as we have for influenza) and vaccines, we can relax a bit more. Right now, it's masks, staying away from crowds indoors and generally not acting like irresponsible dunces .

[HONDO74]

but one simple answer is that people with guns (other than the police and military) are more dangerous to our liberty and safety
As someone who practices medicine in a university teaching hospital, .

According to recent medical malpractice statistics, in the United States, at least 250,000 people have died annually of medical errors and negligence by incompetent Doctors. Probably all liberal idiots....

[gregj410]

The alt-right nincompoops, bipartisan nitwit anti-vaxxers and other conspiracy theory lunatics

Since you some how managed work in gun control let’s not forget about the gun grabbing elitist pricks. Let’s not discriminate now. We don’t want to leave anyone out.

As someone who practices medicine in a university teaching hospital

Pay attention boys and girls, this is where Neil quantifies his all knowing wisdom about the corona virus by letting you know he’s someone who practices medicine.

albeit one with a modest number of cases,

According to Chuck the hospitals are filling up with covid patients. Not sure how you have so much free time to educate us on the forum.

urged by our medical experts.

Like Zeke Emmanuel who was quick to single out the rule breakers on the opposite side of the isle. Don’t forget about Fredo Cuomo riding his bike around the neighborhood while he had covid.

https://youtu.be/k1kBBdWiUW4

[gregj410]

but one simple answer is that people with guns (other than the police and military) are more dangerous to our liberty and safety
As someone who practices medicine in a university teaching hospital, .

According to recent medical malpractice statistics, in the United States, at least 250,000 people have died annually of medical errors and negligence by incompetent Doctors. Probably all liberal idiots....

Well now.....in the malpractice world that’s a drop in the bucket, but in the covid world 216k deaths is catastrophic

[Neil]

"Probably all liberal idiots.."

A total non-sequitur, but if you trust fascist conservative doctors I'm sure Dr. Mengele could fit you into his practice .

[Neil]

"Since you some how managed work in gun control let’s not forget about the gun grabbing elitist pricks. Let’s not discriminate now. We don’t want to leave anyone out."

Given the amount of damage guns are doing to the population in this country, only members of well regulated state militias should have access to fire arms. Oh, that's what the 2nd Amendment clearly states .

[Neil]

"
Pay attention boys and girls, this is where Neil quantifies his all knowing wisdom about the corona virus by letting you know he’s someone who practices medicine."

Actually I've forgotten more in the last 10 minutes than you and Trump and his entire cabinet knows about coronavirus. And the number of hospitalized patients is growing daily with the fall, the opening of schools and colleges, and idiot behavior in bars. The pace of increased infections is curiously fastest in states with Republican governors. Not a co-incidence as some of these fools are amongst the biggest morons in our country. It looks like rougher days are ahead for everyone since stupidity knows no state boundaries or political persuasion, contrary to the idiot remark by Hondo .

If you want to die or be crippled by this virus, no physician can save you, not even a Republican one. But don't pretend you have the right to harm others with your ignorance and/or stupidity. If you think showing up at the state house carrying military grade arms but no mask is being a patriot, you are entitled to believe such utter rubbish. But there are safer fantasies, such as belief in elves, the tooth fairy and Santa Claus. There is no civil liberty or Constitutional right to endanger the health of others.

[gregj410]

Lots of assumptions here from someone that knows very little to nothing about my political life. Do you treat your conservative/republican patients the same way?

If you think showing up at the state house carrying military grade arms but no mask is being a patriot

Much more safe and patriotic to riot in the streets and burn down the cities with out a mask or social distancing.

There’s no denying that all the shithole cities across the country are being governed by your counterparts.

[Neil]

Anyone who questions the seriousness of the pandemic or public health measures that are implemented to minimize suffering and death is a fool, regardless of political party or persuasion. If you are not a fan of the current fascist moron in the White House and avid consumer of conspiracy theories about vaccines, coronavirus, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, QAnon, etc., you have my apologies because so many of our conservative citizens have slavishly latched on to these abominable lies. Perhaps I jumped to conclusions . People are dying and suffering horribly and some of it could have been prevented if we had decent leadership, and I include the fools at CDC and FDA who recommended against wearing masks early on. That was a signal disservice to the public, as was the President's recommendation of hydroxychloroquine and his discouraging masks when the supply caught up to demand.

And no, I do not support violent protest, looting or throwing objects at the police. It didn't happen on the Edmund Pettus bridge and it shouldn't happen now when times are better but still in need of remediation. A friend was fatally shot in the back in Trenton in 1969 by a policeman when my friend was trying to restore looted goods to a men's shop, so I have personal experience with police racism and over-reaction, albeit not recently. I have no sympathy for anarchists or fascists who are trying to start a civil war. A plague on both their houses.

[Neil]

"There’s no denying that all the shithole cities across the country are being governed by your counterparts."

All of which send much more money to their state and federal governments than they receive. And they have much to offer, such as theatre, music, literature and museums, not to mention jobs, compared with the wonderful rural places where the Republican party will do their best to stop poor people, black and hispanic people from voting, because the Republican party has become the fascist party of the USA. They cannot win the popular vote, so they must rely upon archaic institutions such as the Electoral College to thwart the will of the majority. Not sure Republican agents will burn down the Congress if they lose the Presidency, Senate and House, but I would not be surprised given the encouragement to violent nutjobs given by the corrupt would-be dictator who currently disgraces the Oval Office. Hopefully he will, like other fascists in Western history, wind up permanently out of office shortly.

[gregj410]

I have no sympathy for anarchists or fascists who are trying to start a civil war

Yet you fan the flames with rhetoric like “militia” which is now a word for a white man with a gun.

[gregj410]

"There’s no denying that all the shithole cities across the country are being governed by your counterparts."

All of which send much more money to their state and federal governments than they receive. And they have much to offer, such as theatre, music, literature and museums, not to mention jobs, compared with the wonderful rural places where the Republican party will do their best to stop poor people, black and hispanic people from voting, because the Republican party has become the fascist party of the USA. They cannot win the popular vote, so they must rely upon archaic institutions such as the Electoral College to thwart the will of the majority. Not sure Republican agents will burn down the Congress if they lose the Presidency, Senate and House, but I would not be surprised given the encouragement to violent nutjobs given by the corrupt would-be dictator who currently disgraces the Oval Office. Hopefully he will, like other fascists in Western history, wind up permanently out of office shortly.

And there you have it boys and girls.....this is what happens when you drink the kool aid

[Neil]

"Yet you fan the flames with rhetoric like “militia” which is now a word for a white man with a gun."

That's because there are virtually no black, hispanic, Native American or Commies walking around with automatic weapons, just right wing loose cannons (pun intended).

And as for my other comments, demonstrably factual except perhaps to those who get all their news through the mass media (i.e., Fox News ). Only the Republicans could say the mass media are against them, when the totalitarian liars at Fox have the largest audience in the USA. The Big Lie, the tool of those who would establish a dictatorship of the craziest man to ever be elected President. You wouldn't know that there is no immigration problem to speak of, that violent crime is at its lowest level in 60 years, that coronavirus deaths are now the third most numerous after cancer and heart disease if you listen to the nincompoop in the White House, the Republicans in the Senate(with some exceptions) and the mendacious ideologues of Fox News. But believe what you want, it's a free country. At least until Nov. 3rd, when it's entirely possible the current dunce in chief will declare himself President for Life .

[gregj410]

And they have much to offer, such as theatre, music, literature and museums, not to mention jobs

Don’t forget the crime and poverty and homeless camps all courtesy of the Democratic Party. Coming to a town near you.....just keep voting Democratic