Coronavirus:

[HONDO74]

First time I got a flu shot a few years back, like Chuck I got the flu.

You cannot get the flu from the flu shot.

Like I have explained repeatedly, the flu shot is not perfect and there are multiple strains every year. The yearly vaccine is intended to address the major one and as many of the rest as possible. Some years it's just not very good or broad enough in coverage.

I didn't say I got the flu from the shot. It just didn't prevent me from getting the flu. There is no guarantee that getting a flu shot will keep you from getting the flu. Everyone should still use the same precautions.presently in place against the covid-19

[Rufus T. Firefly]

First time I got a flu shot a few years back, like Chuck I got the flu.

You cannot get the flu from the flu shot.

Like I have explained repeatedly, the flu shot is not perfect and there are multiple strains every year. The yearly vaccine is intended to address the major one and as many of the rest as possible. Some years it's just not very good or broad enough in coverage.

I didn't say I got the flu from the shot. It just didn't prevent me from getting the flu. There is no guarantee that getting a flu shot will keep you from getting the flu. Everyone should still use the same precautions.presently in place against the covid-19

I know but when 99% make that statement, they do mean that they got the flu from the shot. Somehow medicine has gotten confused with magic. And, magic is not 100% fail-proof either. Everything comes with a cost.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Oh.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Oh.

No. Open your mouth and say Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.............

[HONDO74]

You cannot get the flu from the flu shot.

Like I have explained repeatedly, the flu shot is not perfect and there are multiple strains every year. The yearly vaccine is intended to address the major one and as many of the rest as possible. Some years it's just not very good or broad enough in coverage.

I didn't say I got the flu from the shot. It just didn't prevent me from getting the flu. There is no guarantee that getting a flu shot will keep you from getting the flu. Everyone should still use the same precautions.presently in place against the covid-19

I know but when 99% make that statement, they do mean that they got the flu from the shot. Somehow medicine has gotten confused with magic. And, magic is not 100% fail-proof either. Everything comes with a cost.

I'm not part of that 99% But you are right about the magic pills. Today in this country, maybe others people expect instant gratification. They go to the doctor and they expect to be given the magic pills to cure what they may or may not have.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I didn't say I got the flu from the shot. It just didn't prevent me from getting the flu. There is no guarantee that getting a flu shot will keep you from getting the flu. Everyone should still use the same precautions.presently in place against the covid-19

I know but when 99% make that statement, they do mean that they got the flu from the shot. Somehow medicine has gotten confused with magic. And, magic is not 100% fail-proof either. Everything comes with a cost.

I'm not part of that 99% But you are right about the magic pills. Today in this country, maybe others people expect instant gratification. They go to the doctor and they expect to be given the magic pills to cure what they may or may not have.

........without any side effects,

It's also pretty clear that way to many expect a covid vaccine to be available on an unrealistic/ ignorant timetable.

Drug development takes time and the time it takes is rarely in the control of the investigators........unless bad things happen. Then pulling the plug is pretty fast.

[rogruth]

The pharma companies have done a great job enticing us to use the magic pill but most never hear the possible bad effects and want it NOW.

[E7]

In my experience (and I've had a bit), modern medicine has been in some part about the almighty dollar. That is NOT to say totally, but it was there for sure.The Hippocratic oath became the Hypocritical oath.

I have not gotten flu shots and not got the flu, and gotten flu shots and gotten the flu. NOTE that I did NOT say the shot caused me to get the flu. The 6 foot rule is likely also a good one to prevent the flu. Haven't decided for sure, but I will likely get one this year as I expect to be in contact with other people at Planet Fatness.....I mean Planet Fitness...

I have received some superior care from nurse practitioners and the local ER.

To blame the Corona virus on Trump is beyond ludicrous.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

A few preventive (hopefully) efforts I've used for these past couple years which I utilize fervently are as follows:
1. I never open doors without using a tissue or part of a paper towel, kept a couple at a time in my pockets, without it between my hand and the knob. The paper is then discarded immediately, but if that isn't available, I enfold the paper , kooties-side inward, and discard it soon as possible. I've even used leaves from shrubs near a doorway instead of the paper, upon occasion.

2. I make a serious effort to keep from touching my face and head, esp after making one of those entries. If I absolutely feel I have an itch of some kind that has to be scratched or rubbed , I use a handkerchief, which I have always kept in my pants pockets, to do so.

3. A small bottle of sanitizer is always in a pocket , using it often during the day, which is not an activity I allow myself to do in front of people , so that they do not get the impression I am saying something negative about them directly. An example of a place I do use the sanitizer alongside others (which I have done long before Corona) is in restaurants, after using the menu, which legend has it is the filthiest object in a restaurant , germ wise, as well as after grabbing the front or sides of my chair to pull it up to the table, places most everybody has to touch.

4. When returned home, my first action is to wash my face and hands immediately, before touching anything, even stair banisters and/or railings.

[chuck]

Good protocols/regimen. Thanks for sharing.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

A few preventive (hopefully) efforts I've used for these past couple years which I utilize fervently are as follows:
1. I never open doors without using a tissue or part of a paper towel, kept a couple at a time in my pockets, without it between my hand and the knob. The paper is then discarded immediately, but if that isn't available, I enfold the paper , kooties-side inward, and discard it soon as possible. I've even used leaves from shrubs near a doorway instead of the paper, upon occasion.

2. I make a serious effort to keep from touching my face and head, esp after making one of those entries. If I absolutely feel I have an itch of some kind that has to be scratched or rubbed , I use a handkerchief, which I have always kept in my pants pockets, to do so.

3. A small bottle of sanitizer is always in a pocket , using it often during the day, which is not an activity I allow myself to do in front of people , so that they do not get the impression I am saying something negative about them directly. An example of a place I do use the sanitizer alongside others (which I have done long before Corona) is in restaurants, after using the menu, which legend has it is the filthiest object in a restaurant , germ wise, as well as after grabbing the front or sides of my chair to pull it up to the table, places most everybody has to touch.

4. When returned home, my first action is to wash my face and hands immediately, before touching anything, even stair banisters and/or railings.

Simple good sense response and awareness of threat. The easy stuff that not enough are doing.

[v8vega]

Corona 19 will be over Nov. 3.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Corona 19 will be over Nov. 3.

[HONDO74]

Corona 19 will be over Nov. 3.

If Biden becomes the next President it will be over with, at least in the liberal media. they won't have Trump to blame for it anymore and they will never say a word about what Biden can't fix.

Since the country is going through the process of tearing its self apart at the seams, it really won't make any difference

[HONDO74]

Covid: Vaccine will 'not return life to normal in spring'
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54371559

Even an effective coronavirus vaccine will not return life to normal in spring, a group of leading scientists has warned.

A vaccine is often seen as the holy grail that will end the pandemic.

But a report, from researchers brought together by the Royal Society, said we needed to be "realistic" about what a vaccine could achieve and when.

They said restrictions may need to be "gradually relaxed" as it could take up to a year to roll the vaccine out.

More than 200 vaccines to protect against the virus are being developed by scientists around the world in a process that is taking place at unprecedented speed.

"A vaccine offers great hope for potentially ending the pandemic, but we do know that the history of vaccine development is littered with lots of failures," said Dr Fiona Culley, from the National Heart and Lung Institute at Imperial College London.

There is optimism, including from the UK government's scientific advisers, that some people may get a vaccine this year and mass vaccination may start early next year.

However, the Royal Society report warns it will be a long process.

"Even when the vaccine is available it doesn't mean within a month everybody is going to be vaccinated, we're talking about six months, nine months... a year," said Prof Nilay Shah, head of chemical engineering at Imperial College London.

"There's not a question of life suddenly returning to normal in March."