Coronavirus:

[v8vega]

History will look at this shutdown as the biggest mistake america has ever made!

[MurphOnMillerAve]

..., if you are just driving through, not staying somewhere overnight, then not a problem...

That's very helpful. I would be staying overnight(s) and have not been aware if the role my motel would be playing, ostensibly .
Thank you for that perspective and heads-up.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Chuck, Thank you, again, for helpful information . That real-world info about Hawaii is especially realistic and alarming.
Time to give the aspect of staying at motels a whole lot more thought .

[Rufus T. Firefly]

..., if you are just driving through, not staying somewhere overnight, then not a problem...

That's very helpful. I would be staying overnight(s) and have not been aware if the role my motel would be playing, ostensibly .
Thank you for that perspective and heads-up.

Well, staying overnight commercially would be dubious; staying out camping, at some alternative housing, etc., maybe possible. I stay at my place in PA; only us there and 1/4 mile from nearest neighbor.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Yes, the prospect of staying in a motel, an un-favorite of mine long before Covid woes, would not be an attractive part of such a trip. Lordknowz what has been deposited in those rooms, no matter if the linens have, indeed, been changed, and any surfaces swabbed. Clean-like sheets are only so-thick, huh, and Lordknowz what occupied the furniture last.

[robert.]

In the beginning Delaware was turning out of state people away. You need proof that your travel was essential in the state. They allowed you on I95 to pass trough but not on the off ramps. That was during the stay at home order. In Pa. I'm allowed to work in a state on pa's quarantine list without self quarantining after working there. If i go for pleasure I'm required to self quarantine or get a covid test.
a retired coworker of mine lives in Florida and Canada . This spring Canada required him to stay in his house for 14 days. Twice during his quarantine he was called by the local police. They called to see if "he or his wife needed any supplies". He told them "yes we need some things." So the chief of their police told him where to place an order. Later in the day somebody delivered their stuff.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

In the beginning Delaware was turning out of state people away. You need proof that your travel was essential in the state. They allowed you on I95 to pass trough but not on the off ramps.

Wonder how they blocked off all the secondary and tertiary roads in/out of Delaware; lots of ways in/out besides I95 from MD and PA.

[robert.]

It only went on for a few days.
https://www.delawareonline.com/story/ne ... 098489002/

[chuck]

Yes, the prospect of staying in a motel, an un-favorite of mine long before Covid woes, would not be an attractive part of such a trip. Lordknowz what has been deposited in those rooms, no matter if the linens have, indeed, been changed, and any surfaces swabbed. Clean-like sheets are only so-thick, huh, and Lordknowz what occupied the furniture last.

Understood and I sympathize. I don't know how bad you want to get away. Some of the things you can try to do to mitigate risk may make the trip sufficiently unpleasant to not bother with it. You could plan to stay at chain where they are going to extra ordinary attempts to keep things safe. Occupancy limits where guests are spread out, alternate room use to allow for deep cleaning. You could pack a seeping bag and some extra spray disinfectant. Spray the bed and them put your sleeping bag on top of the made bed. We had to do this once when we were stuck in a "spring" canoe trip on the Delaware River when 2 feet of snow fell on us over the first night out. We paddled down to Callicoon, NY and wound up in a "hunters hotel" and slept in our sleeping bags on top of the "accomodations". If you have a room air cleaner (e.g. Orek Air Purifier) you could pack that as well to further reduce contamination.

If you have a van/minivan and there are open campgrounds you could consider staying in the van. Also not really that pleasant. Given the weather changing I'm not sure about camping out in a tent or even if there is anywhere to pitch one? Like I said, it may be more trouble than it's worth.


Back to "Callicoon". During our one night stay the main entertainment was provided by a local yokel that decided to run his ski-doo dry by circling the town "park". The two track main line for the Erie Lackawanna RR ran through town which the park abutted on one side. We were watching the show from the laundromat were we took our wet/soggy clothes to wash and dry. Sure enough he got one of the ski's caught in the guard rails on the crossing and a very large freight train was coming into town at high speed. They abandoned the snow mobile and the train unceremoniously trashed it (spectacular explosion of parts) while doing an emergency brake. The 100 car train cleared the town before it finally stopped. About 20 minutes later a police cruiser and a pick up drove into town with the mangled remains of the snow mobile in the bed of the truck. Someone at the laundromat came in and relayed that the guy was ticketed and the RR was pressing charges and seeking restitution for brake repairs following the emergency brake. I think we saw "The Last Picture Show" at the local "theater" and I can't remember where/what we ate. Never been back. I don't know why? Was one of my more unique weekends, ever.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

It's interesting, isn't it, the places and events that become lifelong memories, not necessarily pre-planned but born out of happenstance .

I can recall clearly an early morning awakening on the lawn of the house wherein I had a second floor apartment, during my Senior year as an undergraduate. The night before, I had been off-campus and in town with numerous frat bros drinking the obligatory multipack chugs of beer. I didn't even like beer, finding it boring, but wanted to be an accepted participant in the jackass sophomoric ravings of my fellow college students .

Well, when I found that I had collapsed onto the lawn that previous night, slept there all night, right next to a sizable puddle of beer-vomit, awakening to my own embarrassment and self-shame, I vowed, then and there, never to do that to myself ever again. It was, also, the last time I had a beer, which I considered swill, even well before the lawn shame.

[robert.]

take your own sleeping bag and pillow with you. Use it on top of the hotels bed.

[HONDO74]

We are now headed into the Flu season. might be best to evaluate ones own present health for suitability if one were to contract something serious.....

[Rufus T. Firefly]

We are now headed into the Flu season. might be best to evaluate ones own present health for suitability if one were to contract something serious.....

Like getting that flu shot!

[HONDO74]

We are now headed into the Flu season. might be best to evaluate ones own present health for suitability if one were to contract something serious.....

Like getting that flu shot!

Especially the one that comes with the MONEY BACK GUARANTEE.

First time I got a flu shot a few years back, like Chuck I got the flu.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

First time I got a flu shot a few years back, like Chuck I got the flu.

You cannot get the flu from the flu shot.

Like I have explained repeatedly, the flu shot is not perfect and there are multiple strains every year. The yearly vaccine is intended to address the major one and as many of the rest as possible. Some years it's just not very good or broad enough in coverage.

For people that think that a covid vaccine will solve/cure all problems might keep all that in mind. Viruses can be moving targets with multiple strains. We might end up needing a covid shot every year, too!