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Re: Whatzit?

Postby rogruth » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:28 pm

I recall one year in Ohio that I think three types hit one after the other and we had continual locusts from May into September.
Each type was slightly different from the other.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:00 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Another Whatzit ...
"Enoch and The Watchers" ? (!)

In the Book of Enoch, the watchers are angels dispatched to Earth to watch over the humans. They soon begin to lust for human women and, at the prodding of their leader Samyaza, defect en masse to illicitly instruct humanity and procreate among them.

Catholic tradition considers the Book of Enoch to be deuterocanonical, Protestants consider it apocryphal.

Apocrphal (fictional.)
Deuterocanonical (the word of God.)

In the Book of Daniel 4:13, 17, 23 (KJV) there are three references to the class of "watcher, holy one" (watcher, Aramaic `iyr; holy one). The term is introduced by Nebuchadnezzar who says he saw "a watcher, a holy one come down (singular verb) from heaven." He describes how in his dream the watcher says that Nebuchadnezzar will eat grass and be mad and that this punishment is "by the decree of the watchers, the demand by the word of the holy ones" ... "the living may know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men."

After hearing the king's dream Daniel (whose name was Belteshazzar*) responds, "And because the king saw a watcher, a holy one, coming down from heaven and saying, 'Chop down the tree and destroy it, but leave the stump of its roots in the earth, bound with a band of iron and bronze, in the tender grass of the field, and let him be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven periods of time pass over him,' this is the interpretation, O king: It is a decree of the Most High, which has come upon my lord the king, that you shall be driven from among men, and your dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field. You shall be made to eat grass like an ox, and you shall be wet with the dew of heaven, and seven periods of time shall pass over you, till you know that the Most High rules the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will."

"Watcher" is a concept from Babylonian religions.

*When taken captive by Babylon King Belteshazzar the Isaelites were expected to worship the Babylonian god, and use Chaldean names. The Chaldean name assigned to Daniel was Belteshazzar.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:50 am

There's been considerable questioning in some circles concerning the actual, non-religious, non-fanciful source(s) of those "Watchers". Have you heard any of that ?

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Re: Whatzit?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:27 am

webenda wrote:"Watcher" is a concept from Babylonian religions.


The Watcher at the Gate.............Yog-Sothoth.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:59 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
webenda wrote:"Watcher" is a concept from Babylonian religions.


The Watcher at the Gate.............Yog-Sothoth.

For he is the guardian of the gateway between worlds and he alone holds the key to unlock the gate. For when the ancient rites have been spoken, and the lords of darkness have been awakened and summoned forth, then shall the gateway between the stars open once more. The Necronomicon (about Yog-Sothoth).
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:13 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:There's been considerable questioning in some circles concerning the actual, non-religious, non-fanciful source(s) of those "Watchers". Have you heard any of that ?

No but "Watchers" are very popular in Fantasy and Science fiction. The popular TV show "Fringe" has Watchers from a parallel universe. I suspect the concept of Watchers plays with on our fears and paranoias.

And of course, there is Santa Clause...

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Re: Whatzit?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:28 pm

webenda wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
webenda wrote:"Watcher" is a concept from Babylonian religions.


The Watcher at the Gate.............Yog-Sothoth.

For he is the guardian of the gateway between worlds and he alone holds the key to unlock the gate. For when the ancient rites have been spoken, and the lords of darkness have been awakened and summoned forth, then shall the gateway between the stars open once more. The Necronomicon (about Yog-Sothoth).
--H.P. Lovecraft


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Re: Whatzit?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:29 pm

webenda wrote:And of course, there is Santa Clause...


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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:17 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Abdul Alhazred

I did not know about Lovecraft's Abdul Alhazred. He might have been an interesting Whozit?
Too late now... thank you for the enlightenment.

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Re: Whatzit?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:35 pm

webenda wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Abdul Alhazred

I did not know about Lovecraft's Abdul Alhazred. He might have been an interesting Whozit?
Too late now... thank you for the enlightenment.


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Re: Whatzit?

Postby chuck » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:58 pm

Kind of looks like Miracle Max from the Princess Bride :D. Even the hand gestures.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:26 pm

chuck wrote:Kind of looks like Miracle Max from the Princess Bride :D. Even the hand gestures.


I'd like an MLT, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:03 pm

?Whatzit?
CRISPR
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:31 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:?Whatzit?
CRISPR
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Genome editing system/technology.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:39 am

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