Coronavirus:

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I believe it was bush in 2008 that gave out the TARP bailout.

That would in fact be correct.

[HONDO74]

I believe it was bush in 2008 that gave out the TARP bailout.

That would in fact be correct.

True but it was Obama that was pushing for TARP in congress. Many republicans were willing to let those companies go bankrupt. Obama didn't want that as he was preparing to take over. The unemployment would have been unbearable. If GM had failed it would be like dominoes falling with all the suppliers going down with them.

I'm not saying Obama did anything wrong.

But what happened to all those shovel ready jobs.

[E7]

Chuck,

Congratulations on the petulant juvenile rant! When are you going to expound on Slick Willie and Obumma? I can hardly wait!

Rich

[E7]

Pretty simple.

If you would look at the reports on just that activity you would know that the people sharing a table are not wearing a mask and that the table is at least 6' from any other table. All of the servers are wearing masks; One might presume that the customers if they have to leave the table put their mask back on.

Looks good on paper, but the reality of seating in most restaurants I've seen is jam all the seating in them you can. To get actual 6 foot distancing guessing you would eliminate 2/3 of the available seating. The little place I go to for breakfast was scraping by before all this with ALL seats open. All Trumps fault I guess.

[up148]

"Save Capitalism!!!!! Unless you are too successful...............and then it's burn at the stake time."

Regulate capitalism, so you don't have to burn it. Reminds me of "Blade Runner" where the country and most likely the world were run by corporations. Great movie, but what a cesspool it paints the future.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

"Save Capitalism!!!!! Unless you are too successful...............and then it's burn at the stake time."

Regulate capitalism, so you don't have to burn it. Reminds me of "Blade Runner" where the country and most likely the world were run by corporations. Great movie, but what a cesspool it paints the future.

"Regulate capitalism"................really? Then it's not capitalism anymore.

Think the anti-regulations segment of our Gov't and political parties will row that boat, too? Every time that's presented, they scream socialism.......

They do stop screaming when they get paid, You don't see the banks and insurance companies, and big pharma caught in the headlights...

[up148]

Big pharma has been there before and will be going back. Congress won't be happy until we have socialized medical care and insurance.

Regulation has to do with the information these companies are collecting. I realize our government can't even regulate themselves, so fairly regulating what is done with our personal information will not happen...just saying. We've been worried about "big brother" since the second half of the 20th century, we just thought it would be government, not corporations. But, young people don't seem to care or realize you're not going to control it, so it will continue.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Big pharma has been there before and will be going back. Congress won't be happy until we have socialized medical care and insurance.

Doubt Congress is remotely competent to go there given that Pharma and the insurance companies are dead set against it.

Regulation has to do with the information these companies are collecting. I realize our government can't even regulate themselves, so fairly regulating what is done with our personal information will not happen...just saying. We've been worried about "big brother" since the second half of the 20th century, we just thought it would be government, not corporations. But, young people don't seem to care or realize you're not going to control it, so it will continue.

"we just thought it would be government, not corporations." --- well, it is also the Gov't. They just don't like competition in snooping on everyone all of the time,

Corporations and businesses have been doing this for decades. Every time you buy something with your credit card, someone is tracking what, where, and how much. Those coupons at the grocery store that get printed out are generated using your data. The ads you see on every web site on your screen are generated by your data.

[bob turner]

Surely no one is seriously advocating zero regulation? As in back to "laissez faire?" Repeal the Securities Exchange Act? The Sherman Anti Trust Act? Any kind of insurance regulation? Prohibit "bad faith" insurance lawsuits? Where does it stop?

Did you see that Dr. Birx finally stood up to Trump? He was apparently not happy.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Surely no one is seriously advocating zero regulation? As in back to "laissez faire?" Repeal the Securities Exchange Act? The Sherman Anti Trust Act? Any kind of insurance regulation? Prohibit "bad faith" insurance lawsuits? Where does it stop?

No, just pointing out the folly of "saving capitalism" and that we really don't have a wide open pure capitalism system in place now.

Did you see that Dr. Birx finally stood up to Trump? He was apparently not happy.

See? No. Read about it? Yes. I only began to have hope for her when you could see the look on her face when he was suggesting injection people with disinfectants.......

[robert.]

[healey36]

Nicely played. Unfortunately that's likely to soar over the heads of the mask-deniers...

[HONDO74]

Did you see that Dr. Birx finally stood up to Trump? He was apparently not happy.

Bob, did you see what Nancy Pelosi said about Dr Brix ??????????

Pelosi says she has no confidence in White House coronavirus adviser Birx
https://news.yahoo.com/pelosi-says-she- ... 43629.html

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said on Sunday she does not have confidence in White House coronavirus task force coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx, linking her to disinformation about the virus spread by President Donald Trump.

"I think the president has been spreading disinformation about the virus and she is his appointee so, I don't have confidence there, no," Speaker Pelosi told ABC's "This Week" when asked if she has confidence in Birx.

Birx, asked about Pelosi's comment during an interview with CNN's "State of the Union," said she had great respect for Pelosi and attributed the criticism to a New York Times article on the White House pandemic response that described Birx as having embraced overly optimistic assessments on the virus.

"This was not a pollyannish view. I’ve never been called pollyannish, or non-scientific, or non-data driven," Birx said. "I will stake my 40-year career on those fundamental principles of using data to implement better programs and save lives."

According to a report in Politico, Pelosi attacked Birx's credibility during a meeting last week with Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin and White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. She accused Birx of spreading disinformation about the coronavirus pandemic, while praising Fauci as "a hero," Politico said.

"Deborah Birx is the worst. Wow, what horrible hands you’re in," Pelosi told them, according to Politico.

[up148]

Well, considering that Pelosis is just as big of an idiot as Trump, what can we expect. Two different sides of the same coin.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Did you see that Dr. Birx finally stood up to Trump? He was apparently not happy.

Bob, did you see what Nancy Pelosi said about Dr Brix ??????????

Pelosi says she has no confidence in White House coronavirus adviser Birx

Until this past week Birx has been mouthing platitudes and been a good little Trumpanzee. Finally she has stood up, and found herself and her medical ethics to start just stating the obvious reality as opposed to the WH fantasyland.......and he promptly attacked her for being honest.