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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:41 pm

robert. wrote:"Protect yourself since you cannot rely on anyone else, and don't endanger others. It's really just that simple a level of responsibility which seems sadly lacking across the country." Rufus
I tell this to the guys in our shop almost every day. I also tell them ' don't drop your guard .


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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Roy » Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:53 pm

Would someone please explain to me what the Trump/Bolsonaro thinking is, regarding Covid-19?
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby healey36 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:40 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
robert. wrote:"Protect yourself since you cannot rely on anyone else, and don't endanger others. It's really just that simple a level of responsibility which seems sadly lacking across the country." Rufus
I tell this to the guys in our shop almost every day. I also tell them ' don't drop your guard .


It doesn't get any easier or more simple.


I get that, and I follow the guidelines. Social distance, wear a mask, stay at home as much as possible. Hopefully the vaccine comes sooner than later, as otherwise, I can see this going on for years. If it does, we're going to have far greater problems, seems to me.

As for Trumps/Bolsonaro's thinking on this, I suspect there's precious little. As Bill Moyers used to say, for Trump "this is like getting caught in a Texas hailstorm...you can't run, you can't hide, and you can't make it stop."

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Neil » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:42 pm

I think both Trump and Bolsonaro don't do much thinking :). It's inconvenient, it makes them look impotent and bad leaders so it must be a plot on the part of their enemies, or the media, and not really true. When you are as insecure an ego as these dudes, feeling the need every moment to seem strong and powerful, anything that undermines that facade is very threatening indeed.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby HONDO74 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:15 pm

The American people are not used to be locked down That is why you see so many out now doing as they damn well please.

By the end of this year there are going to be millions of people in this country in deep do do and in way over their head, Mass fillings of bankruptcy and then the do do hits the fan and they will be mass protest going on as total chaos takes over.

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:21 am

healey36 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
robert. wrote:"Protect yourself since you cannot rely on anyone else, and don't endanger others. It's really just that simple a level of responsibility which seems sadly lacking across the country." Rufus
I tell this to the guys in our shop almost every day. I also tell them ' don't drop your guard .


It doesn't get any easier or more simple.


I get that, and I follow the guidelines. Social distance, wear a mask, stay at home as much as possible. Hopefully the vaccine comes sooner than later, as otherwise, I can see this going on for years. If it does, we're going to have far greater problems, seems to me.

As for Trumps/Bolsonaro's thinking on this, I suspect there's precious little. As Bill Moyers used to say, for Trump "this is like getting caught in a Texas hailstorm...you can't run, you can't hide, and you can't make it stop."


Really can't count on a vaccine but that's not a bad analogy -- Texas hailstorm...
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:27 am

HONDO74 wrote:The American people are not used to be locked down That is why you see so many out now doing as they damn well please.


It didn't used to be that way; the American people used to be able to put aside their differences, band together for the greater good, make the needed sacrifices, and overcome adversity.

Sadly, that spirit has gone away and it cannot be rekindled w/o real leadership that's honest, and provides consistent direction that clearly communicates that to the benefit of the country.

By the end of this year there are going to be millions of people in this country in deep do do and in way over their head, Mass fillings of bankruptcy and then the do do hits the fan and they will be mass protest going on as total chaos takes over.


They were there years ago and a lot of them dug their own pit. Again, Americans are not what they were and have devolved to be motivated by selfish and short-minded actions and beliefs.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:43 am

I can't think of a single aspect of contemporary life that the virus hasn't affected, one way or another.

And Death has seemed to have risen to a whole new presence in daily life. The obituary in our local newspaper has shifted from a page or half a page to 3-4 pages every day, and the portion of those deceased that are 70 and above has increased markedly. It almost seems like a "culling."

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby HONDO74 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:50 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
They were there years ago and a lot of them dug their own pit. Again, Americans are not what they were and have devolved to be motivated by selfish and short-minded actions and beliefs.


It's known as YOLO. You Only Live Once.....

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby robert. » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:10 am

"Sadly, that spirit has gone away and it cannot be rekindled w/o real leadership that's honest, and provides consistent direction that clearly communicates that to the benefit of the country." rufus
Everyday we are lied to. It has become harder and harder to believe anything you hear. For a week ,outside my house there has been a sign saying " bridge closed". Traffic goes through it 24/7. No closure yet
for 6-7 months we have heard conflicting statements about a virus. Do this, don't do that or stay away from this. WHO and CDC. It's time leadership leads. a lot of folks don't understand the impact of the last 5 months. Health, financial and unity.
life has changed. Like it or not. Things will not be the same. Many people refuse to accept that. Many say "we will accept nothing but the old normal." Aint gonna happen. That's for sure. Most of the normal things will not be in business. Your favorite restaurant wont be around anymore. Entertainment forget it. When the virus is gone. People will realize they don't need so much stuff. useless stuff. Will a $200 coach purse really be something needed? If so will people need one of every model they make? " The times they are a changing"
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:13 am

HONDO74 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
They were there years ago and a lot of them dug their own pit. Again, Americans are not what they were and have devolved to be motivated by selfish and short-minded actions and beliefs.


It's known as YOLO. You Only Live Once.....


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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:17 am

robert. wrote:"Sadly, that spirit has gone away and it cannot be rekindled w/o real leadership that's honest, and provides consistent direction that clearly communicates that to the benefit of the country." rufus
Everyday we are lied to. It has become harder and harder to believe anything you hear. For a week ,outside my house there has been a sign saying " bridge closed". Traffic goes through it 24/7. No closure yet
for 6-7 months we have heard conflicting statements about a virus. Do this, don't do that or stay away from this. WHO and CDC. It's time leadership leads. a lot of folks don't understand the impact of the last 5 months. Health, financial and unity.
life has changed. Like it or not. Things will not be the same. Many people refuse to accept that. Many say "we will accept nothing but the old normal." Aint gonna happen. That's for sure. Most of the normal things will not be in business. Your favorite restaurant wont be around anymore. Entertainment forget it. When the virus is gone. People will realize they don't need so much stuff. useless stuff. Will a $200 coach purse really be something needed? If so will people need one of every model they make? " The times they are a changing"


Seems pretty obvious, but few appreciate the obvious unless they are told to accept it by their favorite icon of stupidity of whatever flavor.

On the bridge - lots of laws requiring those signs to be up many months in advance in PA ; might be linked to level of traffic that uses it in order to notify some required percentage users so that the state doesn't have to hear "You never informed us you were closing the bridge......"
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby robert. » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:46 am

Simple solution to the bridge sign. Place a closure date. On 07/01/20. This bridge will be closed.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:52 am

robert. wrote:Simple solution to the bridge sign. Place a closure date. On 07/01/20. This bridge will be closed.


You and I both know that won't work; people just ignore or can't read signs including that red octagon one with just eh word "STOP" on it
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby up148 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:58 am

Sadly, we could bankrupt the country taking care of those who won't take care of themselves. Won't wear masks, spread the virus, eventually close down business again, declare bankruptcy due to their own poor planning and more. Most of our generation worked our *sses off to earn retirement, but we'll be expected to bail out those who won't adhere to a few simple rules. Sad. They're playing Russian Roulette with the health and lives of the rest of us.

Refuse to wear a mask and acquire the virus, then you should be refused treatment and allowed to die...but that's not politically correct, so it won't happen.


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