How Stupid Are They?

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby rogruth » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:34 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Bolton's book, "The Room Where It Happened," about Pres. Trump, may do us all harm if other world leaders see him - the author - as a valuable source of info and come to believe the President is a fool and an under-informed amateur. Such an effect on international relations and subtleties would not be good, and possibly even dangerous. I'm no fan of Trump's, but I am a fan of our USA.

Publishing that book at this time, and giving that interview to help publicize it, may have been wise for the making of money and the possible un-making of Trump. but doing so may be very, very unwise for the well-being of the USA.

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby HONDO74 » Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:48 am

Gun violence kills 160 as holiday weekend exposes tale of 'two Americas'
https://news.yahoo.com/gun-violence-kil ... 10837.html

They allege that systematic racism is causing all of this violence and murders in our largest cities. However, I don't quite understand how racism is causing minorities to violently attack and murder other minorities. It is sad that these far left cities have been under democratic leadership for decades; yet, they have no solutions and blame everything on persons who do not live or govern there.

A gun cannot be violent, it's an inanimate object. That's like saying someone was killed by hammer violence or bat violence. PEOPLE are violent, GANGS are violent. Place the blame where it belongs; on the PEOPLE committing these crimes.

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby up148 » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:02 am

They allege that systematic racism is causing all of this violence and murders in our largest cities. However, I don't quite understand how racism is causing minorities to violently attack and murder other minorities.


Yep, its not politically correct to tell the truth, so truth will not "will out".

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:28 am

up148 wrote:
They allege that systematic racism is causing all of this violence and murders in our largest cities. However, I don't quite understand how racism is causing minorities to violently attack and murder other minorities.


Yep, its not politically correct to tell the truth, so truth will not "will out".

Has anyone ever noticed who the perpetrators usually - most often - are who commit violent crimes upon Caucasians? I haven't heard anybody dare to mention that.
Maybe my perspective is skewed, since my info comes from TV News channels in the NYC cosmopolitan area; I don't have any clues about the Midwest or the South, or the West coast states.

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby up148 » Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:27 am

Murph, you're spot on. It's the same all over the country IMHO.

All the movements want to voice their opinions and I understand that and support the idea, its just their opinions and ways of going about it are skewed (not your thinking). Hondo has mentioned it several times, "people of color" crimes on "people of color" is seldom mentioned and I guess not a problem. And, "people of color" crimes on Caucasians is seldom mentioned, as that doesn't bolster the causes and incite the riots. The amount of violence being tolerated is just unbelievable. But, in our current political climate, their are no checks and balances, so these movements are allowed to run rampant. What is happening is so warped, its hard to comprehend and hard to understand why it's being allowed to happen.

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby E7 » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:00 pm

Here's how stupid: I have a clip that I am unable to post, but it is of a cop talking about a group that wanted to de-fund the police. He is laughing because they called in to ask for police presence at their demonstration! Boggles the mind!

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby chuck » Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:42 pm

Publishing that book at this time, and giving that interview to help publicize it, may have been wise for the making of money and the possible un-making of Trump. but doing so may be very, very unwise for the well-being of the USA.


The only people that don't know about this stuff are the people that live here! Everywhere else he is seen for what he is and is routinely played. You flatter him to his face because he craves attention and then trash talk him when his back is turned. Even his own people in his own administration do this because he is so erratic. Look at all of the press conferences on the COVID 19 material where he made unforced errors.

Has anyone ever noticed who the perpetrators usually - most often - are who commit violent crimes upon Caucasians?


Other Caucasians. Just like most crimes involving people of color are perpetrated by people of color against other people of color. Most violent crimes are perpetrated by friends and family against other members of the family or "friends". I guess it's easier/more convenient that way, you don't have to drive that far or go into unfamiliar neighborhoods.

The issue is when the police are 4-5 times more likely to kill or cause serious injury to people of color and then get to walk away from it. In 90+ % of the time the cop was violating department policies that would have prevented the tragedy. Not all cops, there are a huge number of really great cops, probably 95% do their jobs properly and do it with little or no fan fare.

We never hear about these police because they are actually doing their jobs. They aren't doing anything news worthy. My problem is with the higher ups that do nothing when an alleged officer of the law breaks the rules and gets away with it. This only makes things harder for everyone else., both the rest of the police and the people they are supposed to be protecting.

Thanks to the second amendment anarchists the job is only getting harder and harder. When you allow the public to arm itself to the teeth and mix in trigger happy cops that are on edge because they have no idea who is packing or even who the bad guys are you are creating a recipe for disaster.
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:49 pm

Bolton's book, "The Room Where It Happened," about Pres. Trump, may do us all harm if other world leaders see him - the author - as a valuable source of info and come to believe the President is a fool and an under-informed amateur. Such an effect on international relations and subtleties would not be good, and possibly even dangerous. I'm no fan of Trump's, but I am a fan of our USA.


The rest of the world already knows he's a fool and an under-informed amateur, as well as delusional. He's already inflicted more damage to our country on international relations than the collective prior century of administrations. He's failed in every sense to accomplish anything other than to inflict damage to and ridicule of the USA.

Publishing that book at this time, and giving that interview to help publicize it, may have been wise for the making of money and the possible un-making of Trump. but doing so may be very, very unwise for the well-being of the USA.


Electing Trump was and remains very, very unwise for the well-being of the USA.
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby up148 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:26 am

The choice this time is just like the last. The lesser of two evils.

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:33 am

up148 wrote:The choice this time is just like the last. The lesser of two evils.


Sadly, this has been true in the minds of voters for many cycles and tends to be the consequence of the limits of a simple 2 party - nobody really gets what they want or need when two polar opposites have to actually work together to get anything done.
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby healey36 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:22 pm

Much of the pandemic safety net (boosted unemployment, rent-increase deferrals, eviction protections, etc.) is set to expire at the end of July. The impact of that could be enlightening.

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:51 am

healey36 wrote:Much of the pandemic safety net (boosted unemployment, rent-increase deferrals, eviction protections, etc.) is set to expire at the end of July. The impact of that could be enlightening.


Or truly disastrous; end of July was a glowing example of short term thinking. Death rates are just beginning to increase......lag a few weeks after case numbers and hospitalization numbers increase.
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby up148 » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:19 am

Yes, this is scary. When the general public doesn't take this virus serious, it's hard for any government entity to control infections. I can now get a daily report on my phone showing my county and although "only" 52 new cases yesterday, its been going up 10% each day for a week. We're testing positive at 6.8%, but that will go up too. And, all areas don't report, so these number are most likely low.

Yesterday we had two 30 somethings deliver some cabinet doors from a local business and neither were wearing masks. This is so typical of our area. Yesterday the local hospitals reported the majority of new cases (some very serious) were 20 and 30 year olds, with no previous health issues. The cheese is getting binding.

Our county is under a mask rule for all businesses or in areas of congestion outside, yet yesterday at the grocery store, a 60+ guy was shopping on a store scooter without a mask. I guess he's too "great" (in his mind) to where a mask.

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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:20 pm

up148 wrote: When the general public doesn't take this virus serious, it's hard for any government entity to control infections.


When the government doesn't take this virus serious, it's hard for the general public.
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Re: How Stupid Are They?

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:22 pm

up148 wrote:Yes, this is scary. When the general public doesn't take this virus serious, it's hard for any government entity to control infections. I can now get a daily report on my phone showing my county and although "only" 52 new cases yesterday, its been going up 10% each day for a week. We're testing positive at 6.8%, but that will go up too. And, all areas don't report, so these number are most likely low.

...Our county is under a mask rule for all businesses or in areas of congestion outside, yet yesterday at the grocery store, a 60+ guy was shopping on a store scooter without a mask. I guess he's too "great" (in his mind) to wear a mask.

I think that's why it was a very good idea to have cancelled the lastest TCA Meet @ York, PA, and why it would continue to be a good idea to do so.


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