Coronavirus:

[up148]

The rationale for the lie was that there weren’t enough masks to go around so they should be reserved for health professionals. Well intentioned but a Lie nonetheless. People died because of this lie.

Since all we saw on the news was medical professionals complaining (apparently rightly so) about lack of masks and proper PPE, why do you say the shortage is a lie. It was discussed daily on the WH press briefings..... and who should wear masks was discussed early, middle and late in the epidemic briefings and it did change from everyone to medical professionals and those who thought the might have the virus. I thought it strange, but figured it was due to shortage of masks and PPE.

I would much rather have my medical professionals protected as they can't stay "6 feet away" from their patients, as you and I can. We lose them and we really have a problem.

What's infuriating to me are the "Jerks" who refuse to where masks in the beginning, now and most likely in the future. My mask protects you from me. If you don't wear a mask you put me at risk. Absolute ignorance and lack of responsibility.

[Neil]

"why do you say the shortage is a lie."

The shortage was not the lie. The lie was that masks were not necessary for the public. Even our hospital made the strategic error of not masking all patients and staff, just the physicians and nurses seeing patients. Not good enough, we knew then, and we know now. Some of this was lying to ourselves because there was no alternative in some ways, and some was lying to the public.

People not wearing masks are some combination of stupid and selfish. And it doesn't help that the President and Vice-President have behaved grotesquely irresponsibly by refusing to wear masks in public settings themselves. They hopefully will meet their end as public figures in November or perhaps karma will strike them down first if there is, as we suspect, a subsequent wave of infections in the fall. They have led to the death of many citizens by their incompetence and selfish, politically motivated lack of responsible behavior.

Masks are literally the only thing we have going for us as we return to some semblance of public life. And this may wind up being true for years, even after we have a vaccine and effective, non-toxic anti-virals. Just have to accept that we have been lax about infection prevention up until now. Personally I intensely dislike wearing a mask, but I realize there is no alternative when in groups indoors, or in close proximity outdoors. Currently I am not going to functions that bring larger numbers of people together, even outdoors. Seems unwise. But I recognize that others feel differently, and as long as they are masked outdoors, things will probably be fine with a little luck.

[robert.]

Luck can be increased with responsible actions
Where i live people will video somebody that tells a person wear a mask. They will follow someone to their car. Video that person’s license plate and post it online. They call them “ karens” Or “the mask police “

[Neil]

Where I live, that's considered harassment and subject to criminal and civil penalties . That is the people doing the videoing and posting on-line.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Wednesday, I called my barber, knowing that he would likely be opening-up soon since the governor was allowing that to occur next week, but I wanted to get in there before any mob of customers had a chance to contaminate the place thoroughly. I asked if he would be comfortable giving me a haircut "privately", coming in the backdoor of his shop, and getting the haircut in the private office area in his shop. He agreed, cautioning me to wear a mask.

He let me in quietly when nobody was around, sat me in a chair that was situated out-of-sight, locked his public door, and wearing a mask himself, of course, did the deed. I hadn't been to him since March (or was it February.) Ii thanked him with a tip that I suggested "made -up for" all those months of not going to him, and for the mullet I had come in with.

He was pleased. And so am I that I took the chance. He was in the process, immediately, of re-spraying the chair and even the floor as I made my departure. I'll feel a whole lot better when at Mass tomorrow.

[HONDO74]

Where I live, that's considered harassment and subject to criminal and civil penalties . That is the people doing the videoing and posting on-line.

And just exactly who is going to prosecute anyone in NYC with all the real criminals being turned loose.

[Neil]

I don’t live in NYC. 300+ miles northwest.

[HONDO74]

I don’t live in NYC. 300+ miles northwest.

Upstate New York where all the rich people live. and law and order prevails.

[chuck]

and law and order prevails.

Like Buffalo? Where cops dressed in riot gear shove a 75 year old man down and walk away? That's "law and order"?

[HONDO74]

and law and order prevails.

Like Buffalo? Where cops dressed in riot gear shove a 75 year old man down and walk away? That's "law and order"?

Hey I'm just quoting Neil
"Where I live, that's considered harassment and subject to criminal and civil penalties . That is the people doing the videoing and posting on-line."

So the old man was videoing and harassing the police. They said he had been ask to leave the area several times but he continues to harass the police. And they were told to clear the area.

Not to worry about it since all the police have quite the riot team. Now it's up to the community organizers to control the area.

[chuck]

quite

You mean quit?

The guy wasn't photographing anything, he was trying to turn in a face shield.

Why don't you stick your mr. greens where the sun doesn't shine.

[HONDO74]

quite

You mean quit?

The guy wasn't photographing anything, he was trying to turn in a face shield.

Why don't you stick your mr. greens where the sun doesn't shine.

I would really like to see your point of view. However I can't get my head that far up my.......

[Roy]

Why don't you stick your mr. greens where the sun doesn't shine.

I've never understood Mr. Green, or American exceptional assholeism. Mr. Trump went out of his way to schedule a rally in a city known for a massacre of blacks ninety-nine years ago. This, during a pandemic. Some of the on-site rally workers tested positive for Covid-19. Does he cancel the event? No.

[HONDO74]

I've never understood Mr. Green, or American exceptional assholeism.

Mr Green is used as a big grin.

American exceptional assholeism is some Ahole from California off his meds again.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Wisdom. To a certain extent.