Coronavirus:

[robert.]

Governor wolf of PA refuses to honor house HR836. He will not allow PA to open up. The whole thing has become a strange situation. Not one local news station has covered HR836. Today he moved his opening date from June 12-14 to June 26. He had set bench marks that needed to be reached. In order to open up SE.PA. During his Friday's updates he moved the goal posts. Delaying an opening for almost 2 more weeks.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Governor wolf of PA refuses to honor house HR836.

Reading what that is I don't think it's something that he has to honor. It's a concurrence that the House has to do with him after he declares the emergency is over.

Given that 21 states are already spiking increases in cases. including PA, and it's almost a certainty that other states will as well, and that the death rate remains at ~1k/ and maybe raising again while closing on 120k dead, it's premature to declare this all over. Sadly, a health issue that affects the entire country has been shoved off the radar and now way too many people are just ignoring it.

[HONDO74]

, it's premature to declare this all over. Sadly, a health issue that affects the entire country has been shoved off the radar and now way too many people are just ignoring it.

In my county it's still only 7 case, all in a long term care home. We are almost back to normal. Whatever that was. All us older people are still taking it seriously. It's mostly the young invincible ones that are out and about.

And then when you see thousands of people out protesting,avoiding the lock down and the curfews. I guess others are thinking WTF difference does it make.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

, it's premature to declare this all over. Sadly, a health issue that affects the entire country has been shoved off the radar and now way too many people are just ignoring it.

In my county it's still only 7 case, all in a long term care home. We are almost back to normal. Whatever that was. All us older people are still taking it seriously. It's mostly the young invincible ones that are out and about.

No. That's not what I'm seeing at all -- I'm seeing the seniors out and about and everyone else in between. I was out yesterday moving furniture all afternoon from my MiL's complex to a storage unit and my house. Roads were crowded; plenty of traffic; normal cross section of prople out and about

And then when you see thousands of people out protesting,avoiding the lock down and the curfews. I guess others are thinking WTF difference does it make.

That's just a bonus and the impact of that won't hit for another week or 3, so not really relevant right now.

This is about the states that opened up in May and are now paying for it.

Huston is about to become NYC Part 2.

[HONDO74]

It's not just this country that has a problem. So does the rest of the world that has been affected.

Hardship ahead for virus hit UK.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-53039952

UK facing period of hardship as pandemic hits jobs and livelihoods - Chancellor Rishi Sunak
UK PM Boris Johnson launches review of the 2m distancing rule, after warnings it could cripple hospitality industry

Thousands attend illegal raves in north-west England

A 20-year-old man has died from a suspected drug overdose following an illegal rave in Droylsden, north-west England, which was attended by around 4,000 people on Saturday night, Greater Manchester Police has said.

A separate gathering on the same night in nearby Carrington was believed to have been attended by around 2,000 people, police said.

Assistant Chief Constable Chris Sykes said the raves were "clearly a breach of coronavirus legislation" and "had tragic consequences".

At the Carrington rave a number of serious incidents took place, including three reported stabbings and the alleged rape of an 18-year-old woman, police said.

After the party. they don't care.


In England, gatherings of more than six people are not currently allowed under lockdown rules - however there have also been reports of large illegal raves in other areas of the country, including London.

Greater Manchester illegal raves: Man dies, woman raped and three stabbed
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-53040827

[Rufus T. Firefly]

It's not just this country that has a problem. So does the rest of the world that has been affected.

The whole world with a few exceptions is affected and doubly so by those that deny the problem.

It'll be 150k dead in the US by the end of the month. Maybe better priorities related to survival should be considered.

[HONDO74]

New York says it's 'tamed the beast' of coronavirus while some states see record hospitalizations
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/14/health/u ... index.html

New York Gov. Cuomo Threatens To Shut Down Hamptons, Manhattan For Not Following Social Distancing Rules
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/yor ... 26986.html

Cuomo threatens liquor licenses of restaurants, bars if crowds appear
https://news.yahoo.com/cuomo-threatens- ... 34760.html

New York governor threatens reopening rollback over street drinking
https://news.yahoo.com/york-governor-th ... 18399.html

Common Sense Might Be the Best Way to Beat Coronavirus. New Yorker's don't seem to have any either

[bob turner]

I am the token liberal in my group - they put up with me because I have more jet type ratings than they do. Just Friday the first guy stormed off in disgust when I put my mask on and asked for six feet. Two more today - they observe my six foot rule, but are getting pretty derisive about it. Hey, it is my hangar - wanna talk to me, do the six foot thing.

Most are now saying this Covid thing is on the decline, and folks are lying about causes of death. Hope that is true; I have a number of flight reviews to do.

[HONDO74]

NYC's de Blasio fires back at Cuomo's threat to shut down Manhattan over coronavirus social distancing

Mayor Bill de Blasio on Sunday fired back at Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s threat to shut down Manhattan again if the city didn’t enforce social-distancing better — saying through a rep that “imprisoning people” isn’t the answer.

“We must balance safety with people’s need to reopen their businesses,” a City Hall spokeswoman said in an e-mail.

“We had social distancing ambassadors out all weekend distributing masks and encouraging people to disperse after making their purchases.

“These businesses are allowed to be open per the governor’s guidelines and we don’t believe imprisoning people or taking away their livelihood is the answer.”

Hours earlier, Cuomo had announced that he would close down Manhattan and the Hamptons on Long Island again amid the coronavirus if their “local governments” didn’t do a better job reining in scofflaws who aren’t properly social distancing and wearing masks, particularly outside bars and restaurants.


Mayor Bill de Blasio on Sunday fired back at Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s threat to shut down Manhattan again if the city didn’t enforce social-distancing better — saying through a rep that “imprisoning people” isn’t the answer.

“We must balance safety with people’s need to reopen their businesses,” a City Hall spokeswoman said in an e-mail.

“We had social distancing ambassadors out all weekend distributing masks and encouraging people to disperse after making their purchases.

“These businesses are allowed to be open per the governor’s guidelines and we don’t believe imprisoning people or taking away their livelihood is the answer.”

Hours earlier, Cuomo had announced that he would close down Manhattan and the Hamptons on Long Island again amid the coronavirus if their “local governments” didn’t do a better job reining in scofflaws who aren’t properly social distancing and wearing masks, particularly outside bars and restaurants.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Common Sense Might Be the Best Way to Beat Coronavirus. New Yorker's don't seem to have any either

The entire southern 1/2 of the country (except Lousiana!) is proving they're deficient in common sense as well.

I see Oklahoma has joined the 150% increase in cases club now, too.

[v8vega]

I went to a small church yesterday that I used to go to. 1st time open in 3 months and the 1st time back in church for 3 months for me. The goverment here allows churches to open with no more than 100 people, I think there was about 60. Families sat together, everyone else was spaced apart.
and I noticed they had increased the space between rows of chairs. You had to wear a stupid mask the whole time. And I'm way past retirement age.
It sure was nice to feel like getting back to a little bit of normal, and back to church.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

You had to wear a stupid mask the whole time.

The only thing stupid about wearing a mask are the people that are too stupid and irresponsible to wear one

[robert.]

We have fist fights and screaming matches over masks. Whole websites devoted to mask less shopping. For months proprietors fought to open. Know the fight with people that don’t want to wear a mask. People say” i have a medical condition that prevents me from using a mask. Then they say you can’t ask what that condition is.” Ill use the ADA. To sue your.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

People say” i have a medical condition that prevents me from using a mask. Then they say you can’t ask what that condition is.” Ill use the ADA. To sue your.

Tell them to sue and show them the door. Their fake medical condition will come out in court and it'll get dropped before it starts. In any case, stupidity does not prevent one from wearing a mask.

[robert.]

several stores in town have refused to accept cash. Many restaurants are reporting that. Opening just was not worth it. They have a limited supply of meat cuts. When people found out they needed to supply telephone numbers, ID. and email address. They refused to enter Plus there is still 50 percent of the town wont venture out. If the hub bub is true. Most will be closed for good.