Coronavirus:

[chuck]

Applications will be mailed to people who have already registered in person, somewhere, somehow. We are allowed to register for voting at the license bureau (Secretary of State in Michigan) or at the local property tax assessor's office (registrars office).

IF a voter choses to vote by mail they will fill out and send back the application and request to be sent an absentee ballot.

Once they get the ballot and assuming they mail it back or drop it off at the registrars office then it is

a) unsealed,
b) the signature verified against the one on record and
c) the the vote is counted.

In Michigan our enhanced drivers license is used to verify our identity if we vote in person. On mail in, the signature of record is used to perform the same function. I don't know about other states but voter fraud is pretty difficult here whether one votes in person or mail in.

Re lockdown/stay at home. You can choose to go out to vote. It is covered under the "essential services". You will have to stand in line, six feet apart and wait, and wait, and wait ..... I always vote by mail since I turned 60 and now Michigan doesn't even have that restriction. I can get the ballot and review any material on propositions, taxes, board of trustee, ..... before actually finishing voting. No lines, no waiting, no problems.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

No lines, no waiting, no problems.

Nice.

[HONDO74]

The US is a big island to lock down.

Coronavirus quietly started spreading as early as January, CDC says
https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-star ... 00665.html

"Information from these diverse data sources suggests that limited community transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in the United States occurred between the latter half of January and the beginning of February, following an importation of SARS-CoV-2 from China," the authors wrote. SARS-CoV-2 is the name of the coronavirus that causes the COVID-19 illness.

The virus then came into the U.S. from Europe, the CDC reported. "The findings do show that in late February, early March, there were several importations of the virus from Europe to California and northeastern United States and possibly elsewhere," Redfield said.

There was no indication the virus had been introduced into the U.S. earlier, in November or December. "We looked for evidence of early widespread transmission and could not confirm it," Dr. Jay Butler, deputy director for infectious diseases at the CDC, said during the media briefing Friday.

How New Zealand 'eliminated' Covid-19 after weeks of lockdown
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/asia/new ... index.html

When it comes to what worked, New Zealand had some advantages in tackling the virus. It had the benefit of time -- New Zealand confirmed its first case of coronavirus on February 28, well over a month after the United States confirmed its first case.
It's a relatively remote island nation, and relatively few flights transit through New Zealand. It's also centrally governed, meaning it doesn't have states like the US or its neighbor Australia.
But the real key to New Zealand's success appears to be an approach that could be applied anywhere -- moving swiftly, testing widely, and relying heavily on good science.

[rogruth]

Early voting started some years ago here ( Georgia ) and I have done that one time because I needed to be away on election day.
Understand that Pembroke is a small town @ 2400 population. The early voting has been the only time I have waited in line to vote.
This year we were given the option to mail in our ballot early and we did to avoid crowds and Covid 19.

[robert.]

My town has less then a 1000 voters. They never ask me for id. One official is a retired police officer. Long time town resident. The other a retired bank officer and mom's neighbor. I could walk in dressed in a costume. They would still recognize me. Plus Tuesday is a primary nobody votes in them.

[rogruth]

Everybody that votes here is also known by those working a t the polls BUT the law says you MUST show an ID to vote. Everybody does.
One of the problems here are the people that do not live in town but think they do.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

When it comes to what worked, New Zealand had some advantages in tackling the virus. It had the benefit of time -- New Zealand confirmed its first case of coronavirus on February 28, well over a month after the United States confirmed its first case.

Waiting for the 1st case to appear is too late; it was clear in late Jan that there was something very, very bad in China and also painfully clear except to the dimmest of sheep that it was going to be a problem here very soon. The failure to prepare combined with denial that there was a incoming disaster delivered our current conditions.

But the real key to New Zealand's success appears to be an approach that could be applied anywhere -- moving swiftly, testing widely, and relying heavily on good science.

Could be...........but not here.

[Neil]

"The World Health Organization is recommending healthy people, including those who don't exhibit COVID-19 symptoms, only wear masks when taking care of someone infected with the contagion, a sharp contrast from the advice given by American public health officials who recommend everyone wear a mask in public."

WHO and CDC have been wrong about masks from day one. Instead of saying "we don't have enough masks" for non-healthcare workers, they lied to us. Stupid and mischievous. Why do people do such evil and stupid things? Don't know.

Masks work if used reasonably properly. There's a reason all surgeons and OR staff wear masks. They protect others. Duh. People who don't understand this stuff (almost everyone) are confused because they were lied to by the experts. Cannot blame them. Blame WHO and CDC (and our idiot president) who either are too dumb or too dishonest to do their job. Very disappointing.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Masks work if used reasonably properly. There's a reason all surgeons and OR staff wear masks. They protect others. Duh.

Had to wear them in my one secure lab for protection when we were doing "fun stuff", but that room also required complete suiting up. But always we had them in the regular bio labs for staff for protection from what they were working on.

Now there's an argument over gloves and the same moving target set of mixed messages. Most have no idea when or how to wear them and how to take off gloves w/o contaminating themselves.....

People who don't understand this stuff (almost everyone) are confused because they were lied to by the experts. Cannot blame them. Blame WHO and CDC (and our idiot president) who either are too dumb or too dishonest to do their job. Very disappointing.

All too true.

[robert.]

"WHO and CDC have been wrong about masks from day one. Instead of saying "we don't have enough masks" for non-healthcare workers, they lied to us. Stupid and mischievous. Why do people do such evil and stupid things? Don't know." Neil. EGO.

[Roy]

How close are we to sufficient testing, in this country?

[HONDO74]

Up through the memorial day weekend it was Covid-19 in the news 24/7. Then overnight it changed to protest/riots 24/7. Listening to the LIBERAL media I don't know the difference between a PROTEST and a RIOT or an Insurrection .

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Up through the memorial day weekend it was Covid-19 in the news 24/7. Then overnight it changed to protest/riots 24/7. Listening to the LIBERAL media I don't know the difference between a PROTEST and a RIOT.

Guess you missed watching the launch of the 1st 2 astronauts off US soil in 9 years and then their docking with the station. Too bad. That was covered very nicely and in good detail

Listening to the Conservative media...........wait, they don't cover any news.

Listening to a mix of the Financial news networks, you actually can get something useful in the way of news.

If you don't know the difference between a protest and a riot, I can sell you a dictionary, cheap!

[HONDO74]

If you don't know the difference between a protest and a riot, I can sell you a dictionary, cheap!

Apparently you didn't comprehend what I said.
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("Listening )to the LIBERAL media I don't know the difference between a PROTEST and a RIOT or an Insurrection "

I know the difference. It's the LIBERAL media calling a Riot or Insurrection a (PROTEST)

[Neil]

Seriously? The N.Y. Times clearly reported that the initial violence was likely spiked by white folk. Anarchists, white supremacy zealots and anti-fascists using the occasion for their own purposes unrelated to the protests. Unfortunately some of the protesters chose to join in with these scum .