Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby J. S. Bach » Sun May 03, 2020 6:42 pm

healey36 wrote:Pretty interesting...two similar cars, one with a line-pole and one with the pantograph. I presume one equipped with a pantograph is able to operate at a greater speed than a trolley pole.

Not necessarily. The WB&A routinely operated at speeds over sixty and used poles with shoes. And the same with the CNS&M.

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Postby healey36 » Tue May 05, 2020 7:26 am

What is a pole with a shoe? Is that some sort of device that keeps the pole on the line? As a kid, I can recall riding in an automobile behind a streetcar in Baltimore, wondering why the pole didn't just jump off the line.

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue May 05, 2020 9:41 am

healey36 wrote:What is a pole with a shoe? Is that some sort of device that keeps the pole on the line? As a kid, I can recall riding in an automobile behind a streetcar in Baltimore, wondering why the pole didn't just jump off the line.


Poles were in two general styles -- roller wheels and shoes

Roller wheels had wheels that turned with a groove in them for the wire to run in
Shoes were static fixtures that basically just had a groove in them for the wire to run in
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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby rogruth » Tue May 05, 2020 11:46 pm

Didn't the spring pressure on the pole keep the wheel or shoe in contact with the wire?
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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed May 06, 2020 12:05 pm

rogruth wrote:Didn't the spring pressure on the pole keep the wheel or shoe in contact with the wire?


Yes; provided upwards pressure.
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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun May 10, 2020 8:32 am

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Postby healey36 » Sun May 10, 2020 11:09 am

Wow, that's crazy, but I'll bet very functional, presuming the car-length wasn't an issue.

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun May 10, 2020 3:58 pm

healey36 wrote:Wow, that's crazy, but I'll bet very functional, presuming the car-length wasn't an issue.


Result of multiple marriages in the shop to make a work flat line car. If I had some curved sides about, this would be a fun project.
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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby healey36 » Thu May 14, 2020 8:03 pm

Atlantic City, New Jersey, 1898:

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Haven't been to AC in a very long time.

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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby J. S. Bach » Thu May 14, 2020 9:03 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote: ...snip... If I had some curved sides about, this would be a fun project.

One of those Bachmann On2½ single-truckers could be sacrificed for the project; they are actually quite nice bodies.

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri May 15, 2020 9:37 am

healey36 wrote:Atlantic City, New Jersey, 1898

Haven't been to AC in a very long time.


It's changed.......and maybe not entirely for the better.
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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri May 15, 2020 9:37 am

J. S. Bach wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote: ...snip... If I had some curved sides about, this would be a fun project.

One of those Bachmann On2½ single-truckers could be sacrificed for the project; they are actually quite nice bodies.


Had not considered one of those as a donor; will have to take a look.
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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby healey36 » Fri May 15, 2020 10:47 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
healey36 wrote:Atlantic City, New Jersey, 1898

Haven't been to AC in a very long time.


It's changed.......and maybe not entirely for the better.

I recently found a box of stuff left behind by my grandmother, and there was a bunch of Atlantic City guidebooks and souvenirs in there, mostly from the 1910-1930 era. Must have been quite a place back in the day. She had a sister and brother-in-law that lived in Jersey somewhere, don't remember where. I dimly remember her taking me on the train up from Baltimore once to visit them...must have been pretty young, probably four or so.

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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri May 15, 2020 1:39 pm

healey36 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
healey36 wrote:Atlantic City, New Jersey, 1898

Haven't been to AC in a very long time.


It's changed.......and maybe not entirely for the better.

I recently found a box of stuff left behind by my grandmother, and there was a bunch of Atlantic City guidebooks and souvenirs in there, mostly from the 1910-1930 era. Must have been quite a place back in the day. She had a sister and brother-in-law that lived in Jersey somewhere, don't remember where. I dimly remember her taking me on the train up from Baltimore once to visit them...must have been pretty young, probably four or so.


Been 40+ years since I was there; no real interest in returning.
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Re: Subway, Elevated, Trolley & Traction Lines photos

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue May 19, 2020 2:07 pm

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