Coronavirus:

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Growing up in the late 50's and early to mid 60's, at least in the Midwest, was pretty idyllic. I look at that time period as a "golden" age, but I've always been naive.

It was the same for me growing up on the west coast. Best of times. It started changing with the Assassination of Kennedy, LBJs Vietnam war, Nixon's cover up and the first oil embargo.

I agree with you both, fully, Hondo.

[chuck]

While it may have seemed like the best of times there was a lot of sh*t going on that we weren't aware of. Part of our disillusionment with "NOW" is based on finding out about those things that used to be hidden.

We tend to romanticize the past and do so at the expense of the facts and by selectively looking at only the facts that support our chosen point of view. Where the times really that simple or was it the viewers who were simpler/ignorant of what was going on around them?

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Perhaps a bit of both?

[chuck]

Perhaps a bit of both?

Yes. We were kids, how were we supposed to know about a lot of this stuff? You had to go down to the library and even then you had to wait weeks or longer for publications to get delivered and hope they were on the shelf. Looking back I am kind of astounded that we (collectively) made it out of the 50's/60's/70's pretty much intact.

Cherish the good stuff but be mindful/wary of the not so good so you don't make the same mistakes twice. Most of us have plenty of opportunities to come up with all new mistakes

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Perhaps a bit of both?

Yes. We were kids, how were we supposed to know about a lot of this stuff? You had to go down to the library and even then you had to wait weeks or longer for publications to get delivered and hope they were on the shelf. Looking back I am kind of astounded that we (collectively) made it out of the 50's/60's/70's pretty much intact.

Problem is that there's a lot of selective, filtered memories. Kids were terribly sheltered from reality. Many grew up to be adults that still believe that the "good old days" were all that existed then. Many should know better now. Many should also know that you can't go back.

[up148]

Perhaps a bit of both?

Yes. We were kids, how were we supposed to know about a lot of this stuff? You had to go down to the library and even then you had to wait weeks or longer for publications to get delivered and hope they were on the shelf. Looking back I am kind of astounded that we (collectively) made it out of the 50's/60's/70's pretty much intact.

Problem is that there's a lot of selective, filtered memories. Kids were terribly sheltered from reality. Many grew up to be adults that still believe that the "good old days" were all that existed then. Many should know better now. Many should also know that you can't go back.

Strictly talking about my memories and not world or national happenings. Yes, sheltered and naive, but it was great growing up 20 miles east of KCMO in remote suburbs at that time. Cornfields, woods, creeks, bike rides to places we weren't supposed to go, $.25 (13 pop bottles) and you were almost a millionaire at Ben Franklin. Took lawn mowing and snow shoveling $$$ for model car kits, replacement inner tubes and such. Saw divorces, alcoholics, crummy parents and sometimes death, but interpreted through preteen and early teen eyes, I considered it to be the exception not the rule and I wouldn't allow it change my world for more than a short period. It was a pretty happy time in my life. Still quite happy and choose to enjoy the Peter Pan principle, but I see the ugly around us.

Yeah, certainly understand why you can "never go home" it was a time not a place.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Yes. We were kids, how were we supposed to know about a lot of this stuff? You had to go down to the library and even then you had to wait weeks or longer for publications to get delivered and hope they were on the shelf. Looking back I am kind of astounded that we (collectively) made it out of the 50's/60's/70's pretty much intact.

Problem is that there's a lot of selective, filtered memories. Kids were terribly sheltered from reality. Many grew up to be adults that still believe that the "good old days" were all that existed then. Many should know better now. Many should also know that you can't go back.

Strictly talking about my memories and not world or national happenings. Yes, sheltered and naive, but it was great growing up 20 miles east of KCMO in remote suburbs at that time. Cornfields, woods, creeks, bike rides to places we weren't supposed to go, $.25 (13 pop bottles) and you were almost a millionaire at Ben Franklin. Took lawn mowing and snow shoveling $$$ for model car kits, replacement inner tubes and such. Saw divorces, alcoholics, crummy parents and sometimes death, but interpreted through preteen and early teen eyes, I considered it to be the exception not the rule and I wouldn't allow it change my world for more than a short period. It was a pretty happy time in my life. Still quite happy and choose to enjoy the Peter Pan principle, but I see the ugly around us.

Yeah, certainly understand why you can "never go home" it was a time not a place.

We were lucky........and maybe that needs to also be part of the story.

Over 23k dead now; closing on 600k confirmed. A lot of states - NJ, MI, PA, MA, IL, CA - are just about at the point where NY was 3 weeks ago....and I'm not sure that those states have the hospital capacity to handle things.

[healey36]

And Smithfield is shuttering their largest processing plant...no more bacon!

[HONDO74]

Seattle’s Army-built field hospital is coming down without treating a single patient
https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2020/0 ... e-patient/

Set up about a week ago by hundreds of U.S. Army soldiers, the 250-bed field hospital was intended to handle any overflow of non-COVID-19 patients while area medical centers dealt with the pandemic.

The portable hospital is designed to include intensive-care beds and surgical services, as well as a laboratory, pharmacy and a radiological unit. The 62nd Medical Brigade from Joint Base Lewis-McChord and the 627th Hospital Center and 10th Field Hospital, both based at Fort Carson, Colorado, were assigned to staff the facility.

Washington now has no requests for military medical personnel to assist in the coronavirus response, according to state Military Department spokeswoman Karina Shagren.

"It's possible the 62nd Medical Brigade will stay in the state to support JBLM's response -- or if necessary, they could go to support another field hospital elsewhere," Shagren wrote in an email.

The governor said the hospital was requested "before our physical distancing strategies were fully implemented and we had considerable concerns that our hospitals would be overloaded with COVID-19 cases.

"But we haven't beat this virus yet, and until we do, it has the potential to spread rapidly if we don't continue the measures we've put in place," Inslee added.

In an email, Inslee spokeswoman Tara Lee wrote that other than the field hospital and the 400 ventilators, she wasn't aware of the state returning any other medical supplies to the federal government.

Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan called Inslee's announcement the right decision, because the region's hospitals appear to have enough capacity, ICU beds and ventilators.

"While Seattle fought hard for these resources, it's clear other communities are in desperate need of this high-quality medical facility and personnel," Durkan said. "This virus knows no borders, and we must care for the sick and vulnerable, regardless of any city, county, or state line."

Isolation and quarantine sites being run by King County -- such as the Shoreline Temporary Field Hospital -- remain in operation, according to Chase Gallagher, a spokesman for King County Executive Dow Constantine.

That facility is for people who are unable to isolate and recover from COVID-19 in their own house.

On Tuesday, King County had 39 people using its various quarantine and isolation sites, according to Gallagher.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Seattle’s Army-built field hospital is coming down without treating a single patient
https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2020/0 ... e-patient/

Set up about a week ago by hundreds of U.S. Army soldiers, the 250-bed field hospital was intended to handle any overflow of non-COVID-19 patients while area medical centers dealt with the pandemic.

Good!

[Roy]

Does this mean Washington state is over the hump?

[chuck]

Seattle, at this point in time. Washington STATE is pretty big.

This isn't a time for any victory laps. China is starting to experience a second wave of outbreaks.

The west coast governors are STARTING to prepare to "re-open" their states but this is not something that is imminent. They need two tier testing kits (one for exposure and one for those potentially infected). They also need to ramp up public heath "detectives" to do tracing for people that are infected to try to identify and isolate them. I don't know if there are enough test kits available but the number of detectives are not even close. People will need to be hired and trained.

It would be great if they can get things up to a point that we can begin to get back to normal by mid August to early September. I HOPE we can lift a lot of the more severe restrictions by June-July.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Does this mean Washington state is over the hump?

A firm maybe on "over"; what it implies is that their hospital capacity has not been exceeded and that they don't need the overflow.

Good news there is that states that might need that overflow capacity could use this resource.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Seattle, at this point in time. Washington STATE is pretty big.

This isn't a time for any victory laps. China is starting to experience a second wave of outbreaks.

May have re-opened too soon - might be a lesson to learn there......hope that we pay attention......

The west coast governors are STARTING to prepare to "re-open" their states but this is not something that is imminent. They need two tier testing kits (one for exposure and one for those potentially infected).

Still not widely available in numbers needed.........

They also need to ramp up public heath "detectives" to do tracing for people that are infected to try to identify and isolate them. I don't know if there are enough test kits available but the number of detectives are not even close. People will need to be hired and trained.

Tough going there - who wants that job?

It would be great if they can get things up to a point that we can begin to get back to normal by mid August to early September. I HOPE we can lift a lot of the more severe restrictions by June-July.

Hope is a wonderful thing.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

I got a phone call today informing me that my cousin-in-law who died last week from the virus was buried Saturday. Alone. Only his son was present. The entire family was not allowed to be there, though a clique of his closest friends stood vigil outside the gates. I wish I had known of the when and the where, though it was explained to me today that the where was two rows down from my wife..

I don't have any other words.