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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby HONDO74 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:01 pm

Back to people dying in this country every day from this disease

Coronavirus wreaks havoc in African American neighbourhoods
https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-wrea ... 58027.html

As of 5 April, 1,824 out of Chicago's 4,680 confirmed Covid-19 cases were black residents, said city officials on Monday.

That compared with 847 white, 478 Hispanic and 126 Asian Chicagoans.

But there are many still dying from lead poisoning
2 killed, 18 wounded in Chicago weekend shootings
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020 ... -april-3-6

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Postby Neil » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:14 pm

"Or burning someone at the stake. "

I wasn't the one who threatened physical violence. I just suggested a more traditional approach for the thugs amongst us :).
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Postby Neil » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:17 pm

The higher rate of mortality amongst African-Americans is most likely explained by the higher rates of smoking, living in neighborhoods with worse air pollution, higher rates of hypertension, diabetes, obesity and other risk factors. Nothing we can do about it now, but future efforts to shut down coal plants, clean up vehicle exhausts to minimize microparticulates, and better health care for all would probably address the differential survival problem in substantive meaningful ways, as well as helping everyone else, regardless of race.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:31 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
chuck wrote:There is no one to perform the maintenance at the cemetary, that's why its closed. No one to pick up the trash, toss the cut flowers, etc......

Thank you, Chuck. That makes sense to me, though it hadn't occurred to me at all..


Except that I'd think that maybe they would declare them essential as there is real need. Getting your lawn service guys out is apparently essential..........

I've noticed, during my walks throughout our community this week, that even more of the professional small-business yard-groomers are out there, doing their deeds. Trucks with large trailers ; crews of 3-6, on average .

P.S. I've just learned, this morning, that a dear cousin-in-law who had been hospitalized for several days, with a suspicion he had the virus, died from it early today. His son has indicated that the family would likely have a memorial service , perhaps on the deceased's birthday in October , with burial handled immediately, unattended but directed by the funeral home, coincidentally, in the same cemetery I couldn't gain access to, Monday , for a personal visit .

Perhaps I'll be able to watch the burial from outside the black iron fence.

Also this morning, a dear, close friend who had not been replying to my texting for several weeks, texted me today asking that I call him. His wife has been replying to my texts to him via conversations on the phone, that what they had suspected and had him tested for turned out to be true . He has the virus . He barely had the strength to sustain a phone conversation for any real length, and his voice was shaky, without any audible juiciness from his lungs, but he confirmed he had no sense of smell, though he is
hungry . His wife continues to nurse him in their home , which the doctor who conducted his examination and testing approved . We don't want him in a hospital; nor does he. He has been able to get plenty of bed-rest and sleep , which I believe is a good thing .

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby chuck » Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:09 pm

Sorry to hear about your friends illness and your cousin-in-laws passing. These are trying times but things will get better.

I lived across the street from a 160 year old cemetery in Ann Arbor for about a year in my undergraduate days. My two room mates and I got to see a lot of burial/funeral customs during that time, it's a non denominational cemetery. When they have to bury someone without a service (for whatever reason) it's kind of perfunctory. The grounds keepers and funeral directors representatives are professional/respectful but the process is very cold/impersonal. It was sort of like watching a construction crew laying water main/sewer pipe. Not sure that's how you want to remember someone.
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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:57 pm

Thank you, Chuck, for that perspective . But now that I consider it further, I would be present , however distant, not so much for myself but to show him the respect that a member of his family would be there, present, for his last journey, homeward.

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Postby chuck » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:01 pm

Just thought you should know what it's going to be like. I appreciate your loyalty to your family member.
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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:02 pm

chuck wrote:Just thought you should know what it's going to be like. I appreciate your loyalty to your family member.

I understood, Chuck , and am happy for your advice because it helped my sharpen my perspective and purpose.
Thanks again.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:10 pm

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Postby robert. » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:58 pm

Septa dumped more rail service. No trains to bucks county,Trenton or Delaware. Not sure that i understood their new bus routes. Might only be routes that drive by health care facilities.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Roy » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:16 am

On the Newshour last night, there was an interesting interview with Bill Gates. Tonight, they covered Sweden. They're safeguarding their elderly and otherwise vulnerable, but otherwise they're open for business. The Swedes want the healthy and strong to get infected quickly, so as to develop herd immunity.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:35 am

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby HONDO74 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:09 am

Wal-Mart on Tuesdays in my hometown is open from 6 to 7am for seniors. Got there about 10 to 7. Everyone coming out had TP in their cart. I was hoping I wasn't too late. Got a cart and headed straight to the TP. They had a lot of it so I picked up a 12 roll package. They had 2 different brands all 12 rolls. Should last a least a month.

I felt like Steve martin in the movie the jerk when the new phone books arrived. :mrgreen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw8LDMOiOko

Wal-mart is now one entrance. one way in and out. Stay 6 ft apart. They monitor the number going in and out. We will never reach the max number at our store except maybe on black Friday. I never go on that day.

Don't have any cases of the virus in the county that I live in. The most cases in Missouri are in Kansas city, St Louis and Springfield

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:33 am

HONDO74 wrote:They had a lot of it so I picked up a 12 roll package. They had 2 different brands all 12 rolls. Should last a least a month.


Avoid the bran muffins, :wink: :wink:
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby chuck » Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:39 am

The Swedes want the healthy and strong to get infected quickly, so as to develop herd immunity.


That wasn't a conscious choice. They ignored the early warnings and now their health care system is near collapse. Faced with a bunch of bad alternatives as a result of bad first choices they have tried to formulate the best possible solution. If you don't mind sacrificing a relatively large portion of your population that is certainly one solution. Remember, it isn't just the people that will die from COVID19 that you need to be concerned about. It i also all the people that die BECAUSE the heath care system was over stressed trying to deal with COVID19 infections.

Compare what happened in Norway where they did early lock downs and isolation. They have far fewer cases and they are not running out of critical supplies and their health care system is not near collapse.

England my be the worst case example of how not to deal with a highly infectious and potentially deadly disease. Their numbers will probably outstrip ours in short order.
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