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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:13 am

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As for curing patients, there's no market if you cure anyone. The solution is to reduce diseases to chronic conditions, reduce patients to what are essentially drug addicts, and create an endless source of income. Modern medicine, indeed.
No one wants to do it for the accolades or the feeling of doing good?


Oh, many believe in that aspect; academic researchers and those living on grant money. You can spend your life in that pursuit. Many have. Few have survived the arena or been able to see a glimpse of the finish line.

Pharma? Not really. Why create a drug that puts you out of business?
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:15 am

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The UK government reportedly believes the coronavirus outbreak may have started in a Chinese laboratory.


Some of our own aluminum hat wearing congressmen touted that back in Feb. That conspiracy theory was roundly reduce to ridicule and hysterical peals of laughter.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby robert. » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:31 am

No matter where or how it started. Things will need to change on how goods and people move about. Tourist and merchants would not like my changes. if i had a say.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby HONDO74 » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:50 am

robert. wrote:No matter where or how it started. Things will need to change on how goods and people move about. Tourist and merchants would not like my changes. if i had a say.


You just might get to see some big changes. This might be the event that curtails globalization along with people being able to fly anywhere in the world that they want to. Major changes in transportation And when the climate change crises gets into full swing it's going to be a bumpy ride. :mrgreen:

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby HONDO74 » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:19 am

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told a coronavirus press briefing on Monday that the world may never return to the “normal” that was known before the outbreak.

He said that we will gradually come back to where we can function as a society again, but, even with a vaccine, the virus will be a looming threat.

"When we get back to normal, we will go back to the point where we can function as a society,” he said. He continued, “If you want to get back to pre-coronavirus, that might not ever happen in the sense that the threat is there.”

As of early Tuesday morning, the coronavirus has been blamed for 74,000 deaths globally. Health experts in some of the hardest-hit areas have reported a decline in new infections, but the U.S. is expecting a very challenging next few weeks.

Fauci said Sunday that people must be prepared for a resurgence next year, which is why officials fighting the pandemic are pushing for a vaccine and clinical trials for therapeutic interventions so “we will have interventions that we did not have” when this started.

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby up148 » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:58 am

Yes, those live daily WH press briefings on C-SPAN (5:30 PM EDT) are about the only place you can get information that you "hear" for yourself. Most times quite different than you hear regurgitated or ignored on the media. When you hear the Covid team (Pence,Fauci, Birk, generals and other professionals) speak and answer questions you can see they are really trying and accomplishing a lot, especially considering what they inherited from all of the previous administrations. Trump rambles, but these others get to the meat of the matter and their answers are inspiring. Many of the reporters ask loaded questions that Trump doesn't handle well, but when the same question is asked of a team member the answers are concise and the reporters seem satisfied. Trump should just let team members answer all questions instead of parroting what he's been told and then going into a ramble about something almost unrelated. He loses sight of the question quite often.

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Roy » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:20 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:As for curing patients, there's no market if you cure anyone. The solution is to reduce diseases to chronic conditions, reduce patients to what are essentially drug addicts, and create an endless source of income. Modern medicine, indeed.
robert. wrote:No one wants to do it for the accolades or the feeling of doing good?
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Oh, many believe in that aspect; academic researchers and those living on grant money. You can spend your life in that pursuit. Many have. Few have survived the arena or been able to see a glimpse of the finish line.

Pharma? Not really. Why create a drug that puts you out of business?

You have to be smart, about where you apply markets. There are other delivery systems. For instance, we use regulated monopolies, for our electric power.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:45 am

Fascinating discourse. Truly. Edifying, too, for me, at least.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:21 am

up148 wrote:Yes, those live daily WH press briefings on C-SPAN (5:30 PM EDT) are about the only place you can get information that you "hear" for yourself. Most times quite different than you hear regurgitated or ignored on the media. When you hear the Covid team (Pence,Fauci, Birk, generals and other professionals) speak and answer questions you can see they are really trying and accomplishing a lot, especially considering what they inherited from all of the previous administrations.


Need to get rid of Birx; obvious political sycophant. Tony is the one that needs to be let alone at the mic. Pnce needs to prove he can run the show that he was put in charge of; curious who's disappeared off the stage.....

Trump should just let team members answer all questions.....


He appoints a leader and team and then has to have the spotlight; Wharton needs to rescind his MBA.......

You get a far better briefing from Cuomo anyway.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby v8vega » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:24 am

The media is saying this is the worst week yet and not to go to the store in order to keep the frenzy going as long as possible. More died of the Swine flu under Obama, no hysteria at all.

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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:55 am

v8vega wrote:The media is saying this is the worst week yet and not to go to the store in order to keep the frenzy going as long as possible. More died of the Swine flu under Obama, no hysteria at all.


Such BS is why this country is so f'd up. Only ~12.5k died then.

We're up to ~12k dead today. Almost 800 died in NY in the last day. We have another 2-3 months to go if we're lucky. Wait until the other states like Louisiana and NJ melt down. Idiot Gov's of GA and SC and then the moronic repubs in Wisconsin are going to force an in person election.....next time anyone wants to accuse Dems of playing politics, just think of Wisconsin and stop right there.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Roy » Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:06 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:...Wharton needs to rescind his MBA.

Don of the Dead has no MBA. He's just a cheap knock-off of Wink Martindale.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:54 pm

Roy wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:...Wharton needs to rescind his MBA.

Don of the Dead has no MBA. He's just a cheap knock-off of Wink Martindale.


You're insulting the Winkster. Wink has better hair and can speak in complete coherent sentences.
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Roy » Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:46 pm

Roy wrote:Don of the Dead...[is]...just a cheap knock-off of Wink Martindale.
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:You're insulting the Winkster. Wink has better hair and can speak in complete coherent sentences.

No offense intended, to game show hosts. Do you think we could bundle Don-Boy up with some other orange plastic waste, and sell him to the Bangladeshis?
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Re: Coronavirus:

Postby Neil » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:23 pm

Apparently 60% of Americans think the President has done a good job in this epidemic. What are these people smoking? :)

Or it's misplaced loyalty. Remember the 1972 election campaign slogan?

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