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Is this what Happened ? Should we believe it, ??
Blame the Chinese Communist Party for the coronavirus crisis
https://news.yahoo.com/blame-chinese-co ... 12399.html
Marion Smith, Opinion contributor
,USA TODAY Opinion•April 5, 2020
As the coronavirus pandemic sweeps the globe, one fact is increasingly clear: The Chinese Communist Party caused this crisis.
From the moment the coronavirus emerged in central China, Beijing has acted in a way that made a pandemic possible and then inevitable. It covered up what was happening in Wuhan. It silenced whistleblowers who sought to warn the world. It stole medical supplies from other countries, even while claiming the sickness was no big deal.
At every stage, the Chinese Communist Party has lied. Now at least 50,000 people have died. And the number is growing by the minute.
Beijing’s culpability is the result of its oppression — its “socialism with Chinese characteristics.” The only way to stop a spreading sickness is to spread information even faster, giving people and countries the facts and the time to prevent a pandemic. China’s rulers made that impossible. Starting in December, communist authorities cracked down on anyone talking about the coronavirus.
Blame the Chinese Communist Party for the coronavirus crisis
https://news.yahoo.com/blame-chinese-co ... 12399.html
Marion Smith, Opinion contributor
,USA TODAY Opinion•April 5, 2020
As the coronavirus pandemic sweeps the globe, one fact is increasingly clear: The Chinese Communist Party caused this crisis.
From the moment the coronavirus emerged in central China, Beijing has acted in a way that made a pandemic possible and then inevitable. It covered up what was happening in Wuhan. It silenced whistleblowers who sought to warn the world. It stole medical supplies from other countries, even while claiming the sickness was no big deal.
At every stage, the Chinese Communist Party has lied. Now at least 50,000 people have died. And the number is growing by the minute.
Beijing’s culpability is the result of its oppression — its “socialism with Chinese characteristics.” The only way to stop a spreading sickness is to spread information even faster, giving people and countries the facts and the time to prevent a pandemic. China’s rulers made that impossible. Starting in December, communist authorities cracked down on anyone talking about the coronavirus.
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As with many bits, part true, part opinion, part conjecture.....
Rather than looking backwards to point fingers, I'd worry more about looking forward to not replicating and promoting a disaster here through lies, and mis-information, combined with mor3e simple stupidity.....for example: the pastor of the Life Tabernacle Church near Baton Rouge.......and the continued pursuit of hydroxychloroquine.......
Rather than looking backwards to point fingers, I'd worry more about looking forward to not replicating and promoting a disaster here through lies, and mis-information, combined with mor3e simple stupidity.....for example: the pastor of the Life Tabernacle Church near Baton Rouge.......and the continued pursuit of hydroxychloroquine.......
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And the democratic party pursuing Trumps administration in the middle of this crisis. They are always trying to keep him so busy he takes his eye off the ball and he has a hard time keeping on it anyway. Pelosi and her cronies are some of the most disgusting individuals on the planet....because they know what they are doing and doing it anyway....strictly politics at a time when we need unity. They need to be vilified by the press, but it won't happen.
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up148 wrote:And the democratic party pursuing Trumps administration in the middle of this crisis. They are always trying to keep him so busy he takes his eye off the ball and he has a hard time keeping on it anyway. Pelosi and her cronies are some of the most disgusting individuals on the planet....because they know what they are doing and doing it anyway....strictly politics at a time when we need unity. They need to be vilified by the press, but it won't happen.
I could make the exact same argument regarding McConnell and Graham the former who has made a career out of being a professional obstructionist even to his own party. And Graham who has been trying to sneak in a bill to eliminate point to point encryption when no one is looking. They know what they are doing and doing it anyway....strictly politics at a time when we need unity. Yup. True.
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Thank you, HONDO.
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Apparently the US should have been locked down on Jan 1 2010. I don't think the American people would have tolerated it then. And that might have been too late.
About 430,000 people have flown on direct flights from China to the United States since Chinese officials first disclosed the outbreak of what is now the novel coronavirus to world health officials on New Year’s Eve, according to a new report published Saturday.
Most of the travelers flew into airports in Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, Chicago, Seattle, Newark and Detroit in January. Thousands came directly from the city of Wuhan in the Chinese Hubei province, where the coronavirus originated, the New York Times reported.
The report did not account for travelers who did not fly directly from China and may have come into the U.S. on a connecting flight from the country.
The number of passengers flying directly into the U.S. from China was significantly reduced after President Trump issued a travel ban on Jan. 31 – the day after the World Health Organization declared a global health emergency.
Foreign nationals were barred from entering the U.S. if they had visited China within the past two weeks.
Even after the order went into effect on February 2, some 40,000 people – traveling on 279 flights – have arrived in the U.S. from China, according to the analysis from the New York Times based on data collected in both countries.
Those individuals were exempt from the restrictions because they were either American citizens, U.S. passport or green cardholders. Non-citizen relatives were also permitted to enter the U.S., an exemption made by the president to prevent the separation of families.
Some of those flights arrived within the past week from Beijing into major U.S. airports in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and New York.
About 430,000 people have flown on direct flights from China to the United States since Chinese officials first disclosed the outbreak of what is now the novel coronavirus to world health officials on New Year’s Eve, according to a new report published Saturday.
Most of the travelers flew into airports in Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, Chicago, Seattle, Newark and Detroit in January. Thousands came directly from the city of Wuhan in the Chinese Hubei province, where the coronavirus originated, the New York Times reported.
The report did not account for travelers who did not fly directly from China and may have come into the U.S. on a connecting flight from the country.
The number of passengers flying directly into the U.S. from China was significantly reduced after President Trump issued a travel ban on Jan. 31 – the day after the World Health Organization declared a global health emergency.
Foreign nationals were barred from entering the U.S. if they had visited China within the past two weeks.
Even after the order went into effect on February 2, some 40,000 people – traveling on 279 flights – have arrived in the U.S. from China, according to the analysis from the New York Times based on data collected in both countries.
Those individuals were exempt from the restrictions because they were either American citizens, U.S. passport or green cardholders. Non-citizen relatives were also permitted to enter the U.S., an exemption made by the president to prevent the separation of families.
Some of those flights arrived within the past week from Beijing into major U.S. airports in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and New York.
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Maybe, but it was clear in late Jan that there was something very wrong.........and we're still not locked down and closed.
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All media pushing this to the maximum all day and night nothing but.
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v8vega wrote:All media pushing this to the maximum all day and night nothing but.
And stupid people are still doing stupid stuff endangering the rest of us and the country.
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I realize we can't foresee everything, but many of these illnesses attack the respiratory system. Why don't we have a strategic reserve of ventilators and protective gear?
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Why did NY decide not to purchase the 40K respirators several years ago? Easy answer that still applies, no one expected the US to undergo a pandemic like we have going now. Everyone has been kicking the can down the road for decades on many items including infrastructure that should have been addressed. Was Trump slow on the uptake...yep...but it was a decision by his experts and administration. Always two or more opinions on everything and easy to make statements after the fact. But, the key item is what we do now.
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up148 wrote:...no one expected the US to undergo a pandemic like we have going now.
Bill Gates, for one, has been talking vulnerabilities to pandemics for at least a decade.
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healey36 wrote:up148 wrote:...no one expected the US to undergo a pandemic like we have going now.
Bill Gates, for one, has been talking vulnerabilities to pandemics for at least a decade.
Newly resurfaced footage of then-President George W. Bush urgently warning of the risks posed by pandemics in 2005 -- "If we wait for a pandemic to appear, it will be too late to prepare," Bush said at the National Institutes of Health -- has drawn belated praise from his detractors, and raised new questions as to the state of the federal government's disaster preparedness since his administration.
In particular, a USA Today fact-check recently confirmed that the Obama administration had allowed the N95 mask stockpile to deplete following a series of crises, and apparently ignored calls for experts to renew the stockpile. President Trump repeatedly has blamed his predecessor for the shortage as well, although he also apparently took no efforts to replenish the materials.
"The thing that gets me is, the national stockpile was built, and this was one of the issues... we had to make certain we had enough material in that stockpile, and there are a couple of issues here," Rove, a Fox News contributor, said. "One is this equipment -- there's a different durability to each item in the stockpile. If you've got yourself a ventilator, it's got a long life -- now it may be made obsolete by changes in technology, but it's got a relatively long shelf life."
He added: "But, masks do have a shelf life. You can't make a mask and have it have the same impact in 10 years that it might have in two years. So, this means budgetary questions, because you're gonna have to replenish parts of the stockpile periodically.
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Rufus T. Firefly wrote:v8vega wrote:All media pushing this to the maximum all day and night nothing but.
And stupid people are still doing stupid stuff endangering the rest of us and the country.
There is an old saying. You can't fix stupid. Apparently you can't quarantine it either
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up148 wrote:Why did NY decide not to purchase the 40K respirators several years ago? Easy answer that still applies, no one expected the US to undergo a pandemic like we have going now.
Well, part of the reason is that while no one expected their need, there's also no way to predict what sort of equipment is needed as a different pandemic might have nothing to do with respiratory illness.
If this attacked other organs and functions, ventilators might be totally useless. If this attacked renal function, we might be needing 40k dialysis machines.
Everyone has been kicking the can down the road for decades on many items including infrastructure that should have been addressed. Was Trump slow on the uptake...yep...but it was a decision by his experts and administration.
Yup, closing the pandemic office was done by his people and at the end of the day, it's all still on his watch and his responsibility - comes with the job and office. "The Buck Stops Here!"
Always two or more opinions on everything and easy to make statements after the fact. But, the key item is what we do now.
Get through this one and plan better for possible future ones, and don't expect any of them to be the same target or specific needs; it's a big picture issue and how it ripples across the entirety has to be better understood.
Big shortage right now is morgue space......there's a detail to be considered.
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