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[MurphOnMillerAve]

If the avowed socialist Bernie Sanders were to become the nominee for the Democratic party ?

Would the Democratic party change it's name to American Socialist Party.....

If he were to be the nominee, we'd have to give very serious thought to who his running-mate would be, IMHO .

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will be his running-mate, She is already campaigning with him..

Ohdearlord, do eyes get any emptier and colder than hers?
I have the impression that she even exceeds Trump in a self-absorbed approach to manipulating others for her own purposes. That is all just an impression I have acquired, so far, as I have tried to watch her speak. I will try to keep an open-mind, however, about those eyes and the empty facial expression.

[Neil]

May I suggest that someone needs to look up the definition of socialism and of communism? Karl Marx made clear distinctions in this. Socialism was on the path to but distinct from communism to old Karl. None of the candidates is remotely a communist, unless you'd like to see the Republican party described in similarly inaccurate and unflattering terms as fascist. No one has advocated for public ownership of the means of production (communism), but rather that a republic that demonstrates so much affinity for rights of the wealthy, restricting voting, etc. is not likely to remain a republic very long. The case is thus being made, whether you agree or not, that regulation of capitalism's worst excesses and social policies that favor a more egalitarian economy, educational and health care services may be in the public interest of all. I think the current policies, such as ballooning deficits, religious oppression of non-Westerners, a President who describes Nazis as having some good points, a whole generation deprived of an economic future, rampant climate change denial, etc. will eventually prove unsustainable, and, like in the 1960s and 1970s, there will be violence and eventual economic stagnation. If and when the working class, the coal miners and the farmers recognize that there is no way current policies will serve them and their children, there is going to be hell to pay, no doubt.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

May I suggest that someone needs to look up the definition of socialism and of communism? Karl Marx made clear distinctions in this. Socialism was on the path to but distinct from communism to old Karl. None of the candidates is remotely a communist, unless you'd like to see the Republican party described in similarly inaccurate and unflattering terms as fascist. No one has advocated for public ownership of the means of production (communism), but rather that a republic that demonstrates so much affinity for rights of the wealthy, restricting voting, etc. is not likely to remain a republic very long. The case is thus being made, whether you agree or not, that regulation of capitalism's worst excesses and social policies that favor a more egalitarian economy, educational and health care services may be in the public interest of all. I think the current policies, such as ballooning deficits, religious oppression of non-Westerners, a President who describes Nazis as having some good points, a whole generation deprived of an economic future, rampant climate change denial, etc. will eventually prove unsustainable, and, like in the 1960s and 1970s, there will be violence and eventual economic stagnation. If and when the working class, the coal miners and the farmers recognize that there is no way current policies will serve them and their children, there is going to be hell to pay, no doubt.

Neatly stated.

[HONDO74]

If and when the working class, the coal miners and the farmers recognize that there is no way current policies will serve them and their children, there is going to be hell to pay, no doubt.

Neil, Glad to see you getting involved in a political discussion again.

If I recall correctly is was the previous president that said he would bankrupt the coal industry. Mission accomplished.

And I don't care what Trump says. Coal will not be coming back until this country runs out of natural gas. It's cheaper and almost all power plants have converted. And New York needs to be thankful for Pennsylvania and fracked gas because that is where New York get it's natural gas.

New York only gets about 5% of it's electricity from wind And solar power.

Back in 79 it was Jimmy Carter who imposed the grain embargo and devastated the farmers in the Midwest for several years. The farmers survived that and they will survive now. China is already buying again because they need it.

And if I am not mistaken it is on the liberal agenda to get people to stop eating meat. Think how that will affect the farmers in this country.

There are a lot of problems and issues that need to be fixed in this country. We all need to work together to fix it.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

One of the national newscasters said Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi was "doing paperwork" as she sat behind the President as he gave his address . I thought she had been following along on her own copy of the speech. She tore several pages of paper in half afterwards. I wonder what that was all about , especially since she, like the VP, was on-camera the whole time.

I thought the President acquitted himself with dignity and proper composure, speaking of all of us, of our country .

And in the speech itself, he made several statements that clearly demonstrated he is leading us against many Islamic threats without even the slightest bit of hesitation or fear. Bravo. Indeed.

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P.S. Mitch, As a result of how well, IMHO , the President presented himself and his office tonight, I won't mention the hairdo ever again ; it's permanently off my snotty comments list.

[HONDO74]

One of the national newscasters said Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi was "doing paperwork" as she sat behind the President as he gave his address . I thought she had been following along on her own copy of the speech. She tore several pages of paper in half afterwards. I wonder what that was all about , especially since she, like the VP, was on-camera the whole time.

Nancy stuck out her hand to Trump for a handshake and he ( snubed ) her. From the liberal press.
That might be the reason..

At State of the Union, Trump declines to shake hands with Pelosi
https://news.yahoo.com/at-state-of-the- ... 46944.html

[MurphOnMillerAve]

I was taught, a long time ago, during college, I think it was, that a gentleman never offered his handshake to a lady; that it was for her to offer her hand, and that when she did so, certainly, a gentleman never, ever declined the honor.

[HONDO74]

I was taught, a long time ago, during college, I think it was, that a gentleman never offered his handshake to a lady; that it was for her to offer her hand, and that when she did so, certainly, a gentleman never, ever declined the honor.

But you have to remember this is the lady that just did her best to get him eliminated as president. And last year at the SOTU she mocked him with the way she clapped her hands. And she has had a lot of nasty things to say about him.

You might have some different feelings if one of your female friends treated you that way. Maybe....

[robert.]

Neither one is professional.

[up148]

Yeah, two peas in a pod....she's just the other side of the coin. He's easy to mock and deserves it, but mocking the position of president was incredibly unprofessional and might do her party more harm than good. Just saying......

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I was taught, a long time ago, during college, I think it was, that a gentleman never offered his handshake to a lady; that it was for her to offer her hand, and that when she did so, certainly, a gentleman never, ever declined the honor.

But you have to remember this is the lady that just did her best to get him eliminated as president. And last year at the SOTU she mocked him with the way she clapped her hands. And she has had a lot of nasty things to say about him.

She's only met him at his level.

You might have some different feelings if one of your female friends treated you that way. Maybe....

Oh, you have to pay extra for for that,

[MurphOnMillerAve]

I was taught, a long time ago, during college, I think it was, that a gentleman never offered his handshake to a lady; that it was for her to offer her hand, and that when she did so, certainly, a gentleman never, ever declined the honor.

But you have to remember this is the lady that just did her best to get him eliminated as president. And last year at the SOTU she mocked him with the way she clapped her hands. And she has had a lot of nasty things to say about him.

You might have some different feelings if one of your female friends treated you that way. Maybe....

I still wouldn't depart from being a gentleman, as best I can . It's been a lifelong personal standard for me. I haven't found reason to make an exception, yet.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Neither one is professional.

Agreed.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Yeah, two peas in a pod....she's just the other side of the coin. He's easy to mock and deserves it, but mocking the position of president was incredibly unprofessional and might do her party more harm than good. Just saying......

Agreed.

[healey36]

National disintegration at so many levels. Wake me up after the conventions; maybe then I'll give a hoot.