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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:04 pm

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MurphOnMillerAve wrote:I'd love to hear more about that, esp. "Traps" ?.


The expectation is that parents took 18 or 20 years to instill certain ideals in to their offspring. The trap is sending them out into the world to determine if the kids can apply those ideals and make a go of it on their own.


Funny. I thought that was the goal. Keeping tied down and limited is what I always thought was the trap.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Mitch » Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:49 am

The world is the trap, with the myriad of situations one can get into. If you can avoid problems and make a go of it in life, then one has "survived" the trap. :) We all look for success in life, but sometimes regardless our best intentions, it don't always happen.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby rogruth » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:38 am

Mitch wrote:The world is the trap, with the myriad of situations one can get into. If you can avoid problems and make a go of it in life, then one has "survived" the trap. :) We all look for success in life, but sometimes regardless our best intentions, it don't always happen.

We all think we know how success is defined but it can be very subjective and different for each person. It also seems to vary with the times.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:54 am

Mitch wrote:The world is the trap, with the myriad of situations one can get into. If you can avoid problems and make a go of it in life, then one has "survived" the trap. :) We all look for success in life, but sometimes regardless our best intentions, it don't always happen.


Dark. Almost nihilistic.

I prefer to view the world as opportunity and as something to escape into..............yet I'm not sure that it is any more. We've pretty much gutted that dream.
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Re: Seen in Print

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:55 am

Haven't we - some of us?

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MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Haven't we - some of us?


Probabl for the best as well.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:19 pm

I saw this in a newspaper, today, in an article (by Jessica Guynn , USA Today) entitled, "Experts warn of cyber attacks from Iran."

The statement: "The National Terrorism System advisory recommended that Americans take precautions by backing up data and using two-factor authentication for sensitive accounts." That last part, " two-factor authentication ," I think I know what that means but would you guys be so kind as to explain it to me? Please.
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Postby chuck » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:08 pm

Two Factor authentication requires that a separate device be used to "confirm" you are whom you say you are. This involves use of a blessed phone number you provided, a physical device (usually referred to as a token), or a piece of software on a smart phone. Whenever you go to do something that requires two factor, you will get a notification of this by means of a "push". The push is in the form of an alert on the smart phone or a call to a phone number you set up or a coded key displayed on the token device that you then have to type back into the system to unlock it.

NOTE: You can only manipulate the access data base from within, aka you need to authenticate with two factor to make changes.

The biggest challenge we had was when someone bought a new phone and then transferred service without first adding the new device from the old one. This left them locked out and required talking to a security consultant to get back in (which required knowing the answers to one of three security questions you set up when you enabled two factor). I tried to get everyone in my department to set up their smart phone as primary and either their home phone (land line) or their office phone as a back up to avoid this. About 30% did. The rest had to unlock/get back in during normal business hours when they could actually talk to a security consultant.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:00 pm

Would " two factor identification " include having to complete a "Password" and an "I.D. " when intending to access a credit card account or bank accounts on my computer?

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby rogruth » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:17 pm

I guess my wife and I are in big trouble.We don't have a smart phone, or smart TV, our cell phones are seldom turned on and we don't know the numbers. If something needs/has a password we have to find the piece of paper it's written on. I think you can see our problem.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby chuck » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:28 pm

Murph asked:

Would " two factor identification " include having to complete a "Password" and an "I.D. " when intending to access a credit card account or bank accounts on my computer?


Not exactly. It's a separate line of communication that is initiated when you try to do access something. You request contact and have to supply an id and password and then you get a second "challenge" to initiate a two factor access. This triggers the push from the site you are trying to access and the push goes out as a telephone call, a request to enter in the passcode sent to your "token", or a challenge screen on your smart phone on the two factor application.

We used Duo at UM and you would be challenged to respond to the push sent to whatever device you selected from the list. You had to preset the list before using the two factor system to enter the phone numbers and or devices you set up to receive the push. The separate communications routing is what makes this "two factor".

Roger, you can use two factor with a flip phone or even a land line. You just receive a telephone call with a semiautomated message that requests that you press whatever number they tell you on the phone. If you have a smart phone or tablet, you can receive and acknowledge the puch graphically (usually a traffic light symbol). If you have a token, you have to enter the six to eight digit code displayed on it within 10-15 seconds to complete the authentication process.
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