And the price of brass continues to grow...

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Re: And the price of brass continues to grow...

Postby Chris Webster » Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:50 pm

E7 wrote:I just visited the MWM website and couldn't find any mention that the cars would actually operate (dump). You would think that would be mentioned, as it is sort of a big deal.
I'm not sure why you would think Erik should advertise "car empties itself when inverted"?

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Re: And the price of brass continues to grow...

Postby E7 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:34 pm

Chris Webster wrote:
E7"]I just visited the MWM website and couldn't find any mention that the cars would actually operate (dump). You would think that would be mentioned, as it is sort of a big deal.

[quote="Chris Webster wrote:I'm not sure why you would think Erik should advertise "car empties itself when inverted"?


I never used the word inverted, YOU did, and obviously if they are upside down the contents will fall out. My question is, if they function like the real thing, why doesn't he mention it?

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Re: And the price of brass continues to grow...

Postby bob turner » Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:45 pm

Is it moot, until these things are actually available for delivery?

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Re: And the price of brass continues to grow...

Postby Chris Webster » Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:48 pm

E7 wrote:I never used the word inverted, YOU did, and obviously if they are upside down the contents will fall out. My question is, if they function like the real thing, why doesn't he mention it?
That's how the real things are unloaded - they are inverted and the load falls out. There's a reason why they are called BethGONs, not BethHoppers. :D
There is a rotating coupler on one end of each car, which allows the train to remain coupled as each car is unloaded. Here's a prototype video of that:
unloading coal train.MOV

Erik announced he's doing the rotating coupler:
Midwestern Model Works - General News 9/23/19
I presume it will be functional.

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Re: And the price of brass continues to grow...

Postby E7 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:07 pm

bob turner wrote:Is it moot, until these things are actually available for delivery?


It is less than moot because they are of less than zero interest to me......wrong era! :mrgreen:

More power to they who can afford 100.
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Re: And the price of brass continues to grow...

Postby E7 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:59 pm

Chris Webster wrote: There is a rotating coupler on one end of each car, which allows the train to remain coupled as each car is unloaded. Here's a prototype video of that:
unloading coal train.MOV

Erik announced he's doing the rotating coupler:
Midwestern Model Works - General News 9/23/19
I presume it will be functional.


The rotating coupler is really the BIG deal, not the car. You still need a rotary dumper to unload the cars, and they did the same thing with hoppers, the caveat being one at a time.

Are the bethgons able to dump through the bottom if a rotary dumper is not handy? If not, may be the time to invest in rotary dumper stock. :mrgreen:

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Re: And the price of brass continues to grow...

Postby rogruth » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:59 pm

Lionel made a rotary dumper sometime ago.
It could probably be railed.
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Re: And the price of brass continues to grow...

Postby E7 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:15 pm

Roger, Check out this thread over on NK:

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/topic/som ... 9563148909

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Re: And the price of brass continues to grow...

Postby rogruth » Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:20 pm

So who is the Erik involved with this company?
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Re: And the price of brass continues to grow...

Postby E7 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:55 pm

rogruth wrote:So who is the Erik involved with this company?


Roger, I don't know that there is an Erik. The fellow who makes this stuff goes by the tag CSX Al (on NK) and is the man behind Millhouse River Studio, Al Zamorski (SP?).

He makes turntables (aluminum) and transfer tables, and says this dumper will be made of aluminum.

His stuff appears to be pretty nice.
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Re: And the price of brass continues to grow...

Postby rogruth » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:02 pm

Thank you.
So who is behind/making the hoppers and "perfect" Diesel locos that have been praised for so long but not produced?
Understand that I would never buy any of that stuff, I'm just curious.
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Re: And the price of brass continues to grow...

Postby E7 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:59 pm

rogruth wrote:So who is behind/making the hoppers and "perfect" Diesel locos that have been praised for so long but not produced?


Fellow by the name of Erik Stott who goes under the name Midwestern Model Works.

http://midwesternmodelworks.com/

Known originally for his drive which is said to be a very good one.

So far producing second generation diesels and rolling stock. Not for the faint of wallet.

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Re: And the price of brass continues to grow...

Postby rogruth » Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:52 am

Thank you.
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Re: And the price of brass continues to grow...

Postby E7 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:57 am

I also saw on NK that Atlas has a working rotating coupler! :shock:

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Re: And the price of brass continues to grow...

Postby bob turner » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:50 pm

So far producing second generation diesels and rolling stock. Not for the faint of wallet.

Yeah? I hear that nothing has actually been produced except pilot models.


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