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[Rufus T. Firefly]

Will this teacher be able to teach the difference between boys and girls. How about sex education. How would this teacher handle sexual assault. Just asking....

Maybe this teacher will actually be honest about such topics; wouldn't that be novel?

[HONDO74]

How do you define honest about sex education. Would they teach that 2 females or 2 males can't reproduce ?

[rex desilets]

Hondo:
Flagged for being insufficiently woke..

[MurphOnMillerAve]

How do you define honest about sex education. Would they teach that 2 females or 2 males can't reproduce ?

It's entirely possible to educate students about the mechanics and social aspects of human sexual intercourse without infusing the lesson with any personal, religious, or societal biases whatsoever. Stick to the facts, man, just the facts.

The students will then draw their own personal conclusions - personal would be the operative, important part - for their own lives, which is not the business of the teacher, unless the student requests confidential input. And even then, the teacher would have to be certain about any guidelines and/or mandates instituted by the district's B of Ed, as well as any missives from the parents.

That would be my very brief perspective on such a matter.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

How do you define honest about sex education. Would they teach that 2 females or 2 males can't reproduce ?

It's entirely possible to educate students about the mechanics and social aspects of human sexual intercourse without infusing the lesson with any personal, religious, or societal biases whatsoever. Stick to the facts, man, just the facts.

Indeed, facts w/o all of the skewed mythologies. Side bar: this country has plenty of parentless children available that could use a home....

The students will then draw their own personal conclusions - personal would be the operative, important part - for their own lives, which is not the business of the teacher, unless the student requests confidential input. And even then, the teacher would have to be certain about any guidelines and/or mandates instituted by the district's B of Ed, as well as any missives from the parents.

That would be my very brief perspective on such a matter.

Unfortunately "guidelines and/or mandates instituted by the district's B of Ed, as well as any missives from the parents" will probably compromise facts and honesty.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

A good teacher's volition and judgement must, then, make the difference. Talents and personal skills , perhaps akin to when a doctor or surgeon exercises such in his exercise of medicine enter the formula for success and propriety.

I never taught looking-over-my-shoulder, and the classroom door was always wide-open.

From my first day in the classroom, as teacher, it was never just about "me" or just about "them." It was an "us".

[HONDO74]

Hondo:
Flagged for being insufficiently woke..

Looks like I will have to rely on Rufus, Murph and Rex to "WOKE" me. What ever the hell that means.

I didn't start this conversation, I was just asking questions.

From what I have been reading this country is going down the tubes education wise. What happened. We used to be a world leader

[J. S. Bach]

...snip... Side bar: this country has plenty of parentless children available that could use a home.... ...snip...

How true; however, the obstacles put in a barren couples' way to adopt are tremendous. Especially since a couple can create all of the children that they want with practically no obstacles.

[chuck]

Hondo74 wrote:

From what I have been reading this country has been going down the tubes education wise

Because almost no one considers this a priority. Resources to properly educate children are quite expensive (facilities/media). It is aso a labor intensive process when done properly which adds even more to the expense. The skill sets for the instructors are becoming increasingly complex which further ups the ante.

Parental involvement Severely torqued as "modern" parents are either helicopter or absentee. The former feel their child is the only one in the universe and should get all the resources. The later treat "school" like a cheap pet obedience/day care service. Neither one is really helping the child or the teachers that have to deal with them.

Our school year is far to short when compared to the other countries that are about to leap frog us on this front. When we compared the levels of preparedness for college the kids coming in from the Pacific rim countries were far ahead of our domestic students, even the very bright ones coming from good schools.

We are unwilling to put up the financial resources to really fix things. Politicians offer slogans, platitudes and draft unfunded mandates that make for great sound bites but do little in the way of fixing things. "Standards" and "metrics" are created to "evaluate" student/teacher progress. Teachers teach to those test goals at the expense of actual teaching because that is what they get evaluated on.

By far the worst thing is that we no longer value education or encourage the investment in time and effort to achieve it.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Because almost no one considers this a priority. Resources to properly educate children are quite expensive (facilities/media). It is also a labor intensive process when done properly which adds even more to the expense. The skill sets for the instructors are becoming increasingly complex which further ups the ante.

Parental involvement Severely torqued as "modern" parents are either helicopter or absentee. The former feel their child is the only one in the universe and should get all the resources. The later treat "school" like a cheap pet obedience/day care service. Neither one is really helping the child or the teachers that have to deal with them.

Our school year is far to short when compared to the other countries that are about to leap frog us on this front. When we compared the levels of preparedness for college the kids coming in from the Pacific rim countries were far ahead of our domestic students, even the very bright ones coming from good schools.

We are unwilling to put up the financial resources to really fix things. Politicians offer slogans, platitudes and draft unfunded mandates that make for great sound bites but do little in the way of fixing things. "Standards" and "metrics" are created to "evaluate" student/teacher progress. Teachers teach to those test goals at the expense of actual teaching because that is what they get evaluated on.

By far the worst thing is that we no longer value education or encourage the investment in time and effort to achieve it.

Sums it all up pretty neatly.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

...snip... Side bar: this country has plenty of parentless children available that could use a home.... ...snip...

How true; however, the obstacles put in a barren couples' way to adopt are tremendous. Especially since a couple can create all of the children that they want with practically no obstacles.

And if they have the money, they can design a child of their own by purchasing somebody else's very carefully selected commercially available egg and sperm, having them emplaced into their own womb or rent-a-womb.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

...snip... Side bar: this country has plenty of parentless children available that could use a home.... ...snip...

How true; however, the obstacles put in a barren couples' way to adopt are tremendous. Especially since a couple can create all of the children that they want with practically no obstacles.

And if they have the money, they can design a child of their own by purchasing somebody else's very carefully selected commercially available egg and sperm, having them emplaced into their own womb or rent-a-womb.

Well, sort of.......not very many have that sort of money and there are no guarantees that that "design" will deliver to expectations.

[rex desilets]

Hondo:
Flagged for being insufficiently woke..

Looks like I will have to rely on Rufus, Murph and Rex to "WOKE" me. What ever the hell that means.
=Awakened, as in sufficiently awakened to the shibboleths of the Social Justice Warriors who infect the public discourse. You're welcome.

I didn't start this conversation, I was just asking questions.

From what I have been reading this country is going down the tubes education wise. What happened. We used to be a world leader

Gramsci happened.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Well, if you're going to have delusions, you may as well go for the really satisfying ones.

[Rufus T. Firefly]