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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Roy » Tue May 07, 2019 3:14 pm

HONDO74 wrote:Christianity is (31 percent)...yadda, yadda, yadda.

What's your point?
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Roy » Tue May 07, 2019 3:17 pm

webenda wrote:Not my problem, I am leaving.

Sorry. I thought you enjoyed such calculations.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby HONDO74 » Tue May 07, 2019 3:44 pm

Roy wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:Christianity is (31 percent)...yadda, yadda, yadda.

What's your point?


How do you figure that Christians are the problem. :?:

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue May 07, 2019 3:55 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
Roy wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:Christianity is (31 percent)...yadda, yadda, yadda.

What's your point?


How do you figure that Christians are the problem. :?:

Perhaps it's just fun for him to say things like that because it gets him attention and ostensibly will provoke and irritate Christians?

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby HONDO74 » Tue May 07, 2019 3:57 pm

Humans think they can control what happens on this planet. Good luck with that. :lol:

OUR CHANGING CONTINENT.
https://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/continents/

Where were the land areas and oceans of the North American Continent 1 million years ago, compared to their present locations? Was North America always about the same size and shape that it is today?

The question is are only humans the cause of our present climate change or are other factors at work.

Humans will more than likely trash the planet before the climate does along with over population. Without the use of fossil fuels how do you think we are going to feed this massive population expansion. That and the lack of clean water are already having an effect.

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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue May 07, 2019 4:04 pm

HONDO74 wrote:Humans think they can control what happens on this planet. Good luck with that. :lol:

OUR CHANGING CONTINENT.
https://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/continents/

Where were the land areas and oceans of the North American Continent 1 million years ago, compared to their present locations? Was North America always about the same size and shape that it is today?

The question is are only humans the cause of our present climate change or are other factors at work.....

Your inquiry is partially addressed by the presence of the Great Salt Lake of North America. Where did all that salt come from ? I've heard a "legend" that you don't even have to try to swim to stay afloat in the Salt Lake; in fact, that a person can't even force themselves to sink there, the water is so dense with salt.

Could it be that there was once an inland sea? If so, is there any fossil evidence to support such a contention/analysis?

A place to start the research: "Western Interior Seaway."

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue May 07, 2019 4:28 pm

HONDO74 wrote:Humans will more than likely trash the planet before the climate does along with over population.


They have excelled at this effort.

Without the use of fossil fuels how do you think we are going to feed this massive population expansion.


Oh, that could be done, but few are willing to make the needed changes, and to do the real work. They'd rather stand on the side lines, hands in the air, claiming it can't be done, and then stating it's all not needed anyway.

.......the lack of clean water are already having an effect.


See your 1st statement - that's a self-inflicted wound. Maybe humans should stop stuffing ferrets in their shorts and wondering where the blood is coming from and why....
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue May 07, 2019 4:29 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Where did all that salt come from?


Odin spilled the master salt there and did not bother to clean up afterwards.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby HONDO74 » Tue May 07, 2019 4:43 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
Could it be that there was once an inland sea? If so, is there any fossil evidence to support such a contention/analysis?

A place to start the research: "Western Interior Seaway."


Paleontology in Kansas
The fossil record of Kansas spans from the Cambrian to the Pleistocene.[2] From the Cambrian to the Devonian, Kansas was covered by a shallow sea. During the ensuing Carboniferous the local sea level began to rise and fall. When sea levels were low the state was home to richly vegetated deltaic swamps where early amphibians and reptiles lived. Seas expanded across most of the state again during the Permian, but on land the state was home to thousands of different insect species. The popular pterosaur Pteranodon is best known from this state.[3] During the early part of the Cenozoic era Kansas became a savannah environment. Later, during the Ice Age, glaciers briefly entered the state, which was home to camels, mammoths, mastodons, and saber-teeth. Local fossils may have inspired Native Americans to regard some local hills as the homes of sacred spirit animals. Major scientific discoveries in Kansas included the pterosaur Pteranodon and a fossil of the fish Xiphactinus that died in the act of swallowing another fish.

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby rogruth » Tue May 07, 2019 4:51 pm

I recall maps that showed most of the plains and southern states covered with water.

I still contend that we have no idea what the climates and temperatures should be.
The earth is still warming since the last "little" ice age.

It would be nice too see some more talk about trains.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby rogruth » Tue May 07, 2019 4:53 pm

Hondo,
You are faster than me when using a computer. :)
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue May 07, 2019 5:16 pm

That's precisely what I was referencing, HONDO. Exactly. Very pertinent to the musings at hand.

One might , also, be interested, during this sub-topic meandering, to research how all the oil and coal got into the Appalachians, well before they were raised as mountains.

A hint given to me as a student in my first-ever Geology class at college was: Level terrain. Swampland.

Also, for further evidence and on-site research, we went on a "dig" in some of the ancient Ordovician Age rock layers of Ohio and found brachiopods, a couple of which I have, to this day.

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue May 07, 2019 5:30 pm

rogruth wrote:It would be nice too see some more talk about trains.


Yes, but that seems to also be a declining area of interest to too many on this forum anymore.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue May 07, 2019 5:35 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
rogruth wrote:It would be nice too see some more talk about trains.


Yes, but that seems to also be a declining area of interest to too many on this forum anymore.

I await your inspiration for us to do so.

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby webenda » Tue May 07, 2019 5:56 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:Your inquiry is partially addressed by the presence of the Great Salt Lake of North America. Where did all that salt come from ?

From rain, snowmelt and glacier melt dissolving minerals as water from these sources flowed over and through the landscape to a freshwater lake called Lake Bonneville. Global warming and drought 17,500 years ago caused evaporation of the lake, concentrating the salt content.

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:I've heard a "legend" that you don't even have to try to swim to stay afloat in the Salt Lake; in fact, that a person can't even force themselves to sink there, the water is so dense with salt.

I suppose that depends on how fat you are. I sink in freshwater if I let the air out of my lungs. I float in the Pacific Ocean with deflated lungs with only my face out of the water. In the Great Salt Lake, I float with face, hands, and feet out of the water no matter what.

Salinity of waters I have been swimming in.
Lake Tahoe: 0.05%
Pacific Ocean: 3.7%
Salton Sea: 4.4%
Great Salt Lake: 5% to 27% depending on lake level

I have never been in the Dead Sea but I sure would like to try floating i̶n̶ on it.
Dead Sea: 34%

MurphOnMillerAve wrote: Could it be that there was once an inland sea?

Yes, see Hondo74's response but that is not the source of the salt in the Great Salt Lake.

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:If so, is there any fossil evidence to support such a contention/analysis?

Yes but not related to present salinity of the water.

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:A place to start the research: "Western Interior Seaway."


Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Bonneville
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