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Re: Seen in Print

Postby rogruth » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:08 pm

Thanks, Wayne.
I assume the Stetson is your usual hat for that area. ??
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby up148 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:27 pm

webenda wrote:An example of Fake News Roger. They photoshopped a scary video game character into a photo of the border wall for a story on how scary border agents are.

I have had many run-ins with the border patrol. I'll tell about one.

All the Chevron Gas Stations in my area shut down. I prefer Chevron because it keeps the fuel injectors clean. The last Chevron was out at Three Points, a location drugs and illegal immigrants pass through on their way north. First time I drove out there for gas, it was dark. Three Points has almost no lights because of their location near the Kitt Peak Astronomical Observatories. The moment I pulled up to the pumps border patrol trucks pulled in front, behind and beside me. I was trapped. They wanted to know what I was doing out there. I explained. They asked where I lived. They never asked to see my driver's license or any identification. They told me to be careful, this was a high drug crime area and all left back to their dark hiding places.

I actually felt safer with them watching me.

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Wayne,

You're the only person I know who is close to the border. So much of the news is slanted one way or the other, it would be interesting to hear a logical local resident give his take on the situation. Without letting the thread go politically sideways, what do you think about existing security and illegal entry and any suggestions on improving it if needed.

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby webenda » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:25 pm

The border wall is useless. We might as well have an open border with Mexico as we do with Canada.

The Mexican drug cartels operate with impunity in Mexican border towns. They often execute USAians to teach those who misbehave in their drug dealings in Mexico a lesson. The press makes like these "Americans" are innocent victims. Their friends often say otherwise.

The border patrol has surveillance of the border with sophisticated equipment. Works better than the useless fence.
In February, 66,450 people were apprehended between ports of entry on the Southwest Border, compared with 47,986 in the month of January and 50,749 in December. In FY18, a total of 396,579 individuals were apprehended between ports of entry on our Southwest Border.
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Reference: https://www.popularmechanics.com/techno ... ible-wall/

This is a surveillance tower.
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Not a Stetson, a Resistol from the George Strait collection.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby rogruth » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:24 pm

What do easterners know about "cowboy" hats? :roll: :roll: :wink: :wink: :D :D
They're almost always called Stetsons by the likes of us. :D :D
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby up148 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:33 pm

Thanks Wayne, so it's more a problem of what we do with them after apprehension that building a wall to keep them out.

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:32 pm

up148 wrote:Thanks Wayne, so it's more a problem of what we do with them after apprehension that building a wall to keep them out.

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...especially when they have children with them, IMHO.

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Roy » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:39 pm

Here's a PBS Newshour report on what it's like to try to enter the U.S. legally: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/at-u-s-mexico-border-migrants-seeking-legal-entry-are-stranded-in-hazardous-limbo

The problem is not the lack of a wall, but a shortage of workers and facilities at the entrance points.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:42 pm

Roy wrote:Here's a PBS Newshour report on what it's like to try to enter the U.S. legally: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/at-u-s-mexico-border-migrants-seeking-legal-entry-are-stranded-in-hazardous-limbo

The problem is not the lack of a wall, but a shortage of workers and facilities at the entrance points.

The entire situation makes me think of the Gordian Knot.

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby webenda » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:36 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
Roy wrote:Here's a PBS Newshour report on what it's like to try to enter the U.S. legally: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/at-u-s-mexico-border-migrants-seeking-legal-entry-are-stranded-in-hazardous-limbo

The problem is not the lack of a wall, but a shortage of workers and facilities at the entrance points.

The entire situation makes me think of the Gordian Knot.

And the knot was described by Rufus as comprising “several knots all so tightly entangled that it was impossible to see how they were fastened.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Roy » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:17 am

Roy wrote:Here's a PBS Newshour report on what it's like to try to enter the U.S. legally: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/at-u-s-mexico-border-migrants-seeking-legal-entry-are-stranded-in-hazardous-limbo

The problem is not the lack of a wall, but a shortage of workers and facilities at the entrance points.
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:The entire situation makes me think of the Gordian Knot.
webenda wrote:And the knot was described by Rufus as comprising “several knots all so tightly entangled that it was impossible to see how they were fastened.

Oh, horseshit. This all starts with bad policy from the U.S. government. Any thinking person learned from alcohol prohibition that the black market built organized crime. That was the unintended consequence of a supply side solution which abridged the liberty of Americans. What actually works is telling Americans the truth about the consequences of, for instance, smoking. This is essentially a demand side solution, and respects the liberty of Americans. As they say, know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

You create a black market, especially in a wealthy country with porous trade borders, and it will build organized crime everywhere. Not all countries have the resources to battle this, and more sophisticated criminals have learned from our political system's weaknesses how to manipulate the government's policies.

One of our political system's weaknesses is it's private campaign financing system. The wealthy can support both sides in an election, and win influence regardless of the election outcome.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:40 am

Maybe something Seen in Print?

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby up148 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:29 am

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