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[Roy]

Well, that kid will be freaked out and afraid of water for the rest of its life. Someone needs to get that animated with the priest and see how he likes it.

BH

Amen.

(Murph never gives my priest abuse proposals an amen.)

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Amen.

[NJPiney]

I'd imaging if that ordeal didn't make the kid scream Jesus Christ!, nothing ever will.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

The Waters of Baptism represent a soul "putting on Christ."

The same moment, of a soul having "put on Christ," is memorialized when the coffin containing the deceased Christian, at the end of life, is covered with a pall when it enters the sanctuary, actually at the site of where the Baptismal font is situated at the head of the main aisle.

When the pall covering the full length of the coffin is white, it reminds the mourners of the triumph over death of The Resurrection.

(I used quotes because I was quoting.)


A Baptism is not supposed to be a mugging or a moment of amusement for a priest, as in that clip.

[Roy]

A Baptism is not supposed to be a mugging or a moment of amusement for a priest, as in that clip.

Makes me wonder what a Sam Kinison baptism was like.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOh! Oh - OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOh!

[rogruth]

Murph,
I admit to not being a regular church goer or Bible studyer(?) for some time but think I remember a little. I also remember that different sects ( branches) have different interpretations and maybe what I recall is just that. I thought immersion baptism was a washing away of sins. I never did deep study of the Bible so may be very wrong.

[Roy]

Water is a sin solvent?

[webenda]

Removed image of church.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Murph,
I admit to not being a regular church goer or Bible studier(?) for some time but think I remember a little. I also remember that different sects (branches) have different interpretations and maybe what I recall is just that. I thought immersion baptism was a washing away of sins. I never did deep study of the Bible so may be very wrong.

I realize, of course, that my view, expressed in this thread, is parochial and subjective, and that there are myriad interpretations and expressions of this Sacrament.

The vignette was shared here, so I felt comfortable sharing my chagrin on the treatment of the baby and of my understanding of the ritual.

And my understanding of Baptism has never included a "washing away of sins," especially as it would relate to the infant - or any infant - seen in that video. I cannot imagine (perhaps that is my subjectivity again) a baby being guilty of any sin. Yet, I can see (allow myself to understand) how such an interpretation would fit the concept of Original Sin, and the exchange between John the Baptist and Jesus standing in the river.

If I have indulged myself too much by posting this here, please let me know, anybody, and I will immediately remove this.

Roger, Thank you for the reply.
Murph

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Thank you, Wayne, for posting that additional information.

[rogruth]

Murph,
The church in which I took part when I was young did not baptize babies because babies didm't have any sin to wash away.
That is also why I referred to different sects. This was a Protestant church known at that time as The Christian Church.
It consolidated with another church but is still known by that name. There is one here in Pembroke, GA, USA.
I became too inquisitive for this church when I was a kid @ 12 years old and visited many different churches.

[up148]

Thanks Wayne, but the priest is still over zealous in his approach. If that religion requires such a violent baptism (maybe he's trying to shake the devil out of the child) then they need to rethink the process. Catholics baptise all babies into the church, but it's a quiet pouring of water over the head with the head tilted back. The babies still cry due to the shock of the water.

This priest looks like he's doing waterboarding (I don't really know what waterboarding looks like) or washing his laundry.

BH

[HONDO74]

Thanks Wayne, but the priest is still over zealous in his approach. If that religion requires such a violent baptism (maybe he's trying to shake the devil out of the child) then they need to rethink the process. Catholics baptise all babies into the church, but it's a quiet pouring of water over the head with the head tilted back. The babies still cry due to the shock of the water.

This priest looks like he's doing waterboarding (I don't really know what waterboarding looks like) or washing his laundry.

BH

From Wayne's post.
"He came up with the idea to stimulate the country’s low birth rate, promising to personally baptize every third child in each family. The patriarch baptized 780 children in one session that day."

If he was doing 780 children he was just in a big A$$ hurry to get it done.

[Roy]

The vignette was shared here, so I felt comfortable sharing my chagrin on the treatment of the baby...

If the baby had shown any signs of distress, I might agree with you. Babies seem to like being bounced, and that's what I'm seeing from the priest.

Enough, of this shit. Babies and children ARE being SERIOUSLY harmed by some Catholic priests, and some non-clergy, too. I don't know from my own experience (which was Episcopalian), but I've been hearing about this for decades, now. We're talking serious, whole-life damaging consequences for many of these victims.

I'm an outsider, so there are limits to how I can help. I see this as up to Catholics to stop, if they care about the future of their church.

[rex desilets]

I so seldom agree with you, Roy, but this time you're exactly right.