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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:29 pm

rogruth wrote:A few probably unrelated and un-needed comments but I can't stop myself.

I thought until recently that the 1963 DeSoto was probably the ugliest car ever made.
IMHO all cars today look basically alike from the side and all are very ugly from the front.
Although that DeSoto was ugly you could tell from any angle what it was. This was true with
all vehicles until recently.


We had a '58 DeSoto - ugly as sin but completely recognizable and had identity. Most of today's cars are just cut out of the ugly as sin cloth.

The concern that I have heard expressed most often about electric vehicles is the refueling/
recharging time. If one could pull into the station and recharge in the few minutes it takes
with an internal combustion engine I think resistance would disappear very quickly.
My son has one of those autos with both gas and electric power and is very pleased with it.
Maybe those are part of the answer.


I think that rapid recharge is coming, but it's unclear regarding the business model on selling recharging - just who, how, and where that's going to work is not resolved.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby rogruth » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:50 pm

IMO the sooner that problem is solved, the sooner electric vehicles will take over.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:23 pm

rogruth wrote:IMO the sooner that problem is solved, the sooner electric vehicles will take over.


Curious that the utility companies have not made a move on this.....
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Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:59 pm

How is the electricity generated that charges-up all these non-gasoline powered vehicles? Fossil fuels?

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:14 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:How is the electricity generated that charges-up all these non-gasoline powered vehicles? Fossil fuels?


And there's the real hard question finally..... We have all these gadgets and gizmos that rely on electricity and that basic generation issue stays alive -- right now, natural gas is the leader. Our silly Gov't and country can't deal with nuclear, solar seems dismissed by endless naysayers, yet still popular by off gridder's and in developing countries w/o other resources, and then there are the "others"......
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby webenda » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:09 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
rogruth wrote:IMO the sooner that problem is solved, the sooner electric vehicles will take over.


Curious that the utility companies have not made a move on this.....

The have. When I get more time I will dig something up on this.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby webenda » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:22 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:How is the electricity generated that charges-up all these non-gasoline powered vehicles? Fossil fuels?

No silly. As we grow older we go back to our childhood and wear adult diapers. That is where the electricity to charge-up all these non-gasoline powered vehicles will come from!

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The SFD Recycling System takes used diapers, then sterilizes, pulverizes and dries them in their patented machine, returning biomass pellets reading for burning in the appropriate furnace, returning around 5,000 kcal per kg recycled. Not a bad return for an entirely useless landfill article. Capable of “servicing” around 700lb of used diapers per day, the system could well make its way into retirement homes and large hospitals.

Murph alone will generate enough used adult diapers to power his new Mercedes-Benz EQC400 4MATIC.

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby webenda » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:24 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:How is the electricity generated that charges-up all these non-gasoline powered vehicles? Fossil fuels?


And there's the real hard question finally..... We have all these gadgets and gizmos that rely on electricity and that basic generation issue stays alive -- right now, natural gas is the leader. Our silly Gov't and country can't deal with nuclear, solar seems dismissed by endless naysayers, yet still popular by off gridder's and in developing countries w/o other resources, and then there are the "others"......

The government is working on that too. I'll be back with more information.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:57 pm

webenda wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
rogruth wrote:IMO the sooner that problem is solved, the sooner electric vehicles will take over.


Curious that the utility companies have not made a move on this.....

The have. When I get more time I will dig something up on this.


It seemed highly likely, yet also not overtly. Given that many electric companies were also the owners of trolley and traction lines, there does exist a connection to transportation power supply at least in a historical sense.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:58 pm

webenda wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:How is the electricity generated that charges-up all these non-gasoline powered vehicles? Fossil fuels?


And there's the real hard question finally..... We have all these gadgets and gizmos that rely on electricity and that basic generation issue stays alive -- right now, natural gas is the leader. Our silly Gov't and country can't deal with nuclear, solar seems dismissed by endless naysayers, yet still popular by off gridder's and in developing countries w/o other resources, and then there are the "others"......

The government is working on that too. I'll be back with more information.


It does and then it doesn't - oscillates with party and money at stake. Gov't is probably not the best leader on this activity.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby HONDO74 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:20 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
It does and then it doesn't - oscillates with party and money at stake. Gov't is probably not the best leader on this activity.


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Re: Seen in Print

Postby HONDO74 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:31 pm

Porsche presents EV ‘FastCharge' solution
https://news.yahoo.com/porsche-presents ... 01039.html

The automaker Porsche has presented a prototype charging station in Germany with an output of up to 450kW. It can be used by electric models of all brands compatible with the European standard Type 2 variant of the widely used Combined Charging System (CCS). It promises charging times of less than three minutes for the first 100km range.

The charging capacity of the new "FastCharger" is three to nine times as high as what is currently available via DC rapid-charging stations. Increasing the available charge capacity to up to 450kW considerably reduces the charging time, in turn increasing the number of vehicles able to use the technology in a given space of time.

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:55 pm

HONDO74 wrote:Porsche presents EV ‘FastCharge' solution
https://news.yahoo.com/porsche-presents ... 01039.html

The automaker Porsche has presented a prototype charging station in Germany with an output of up to 450kW. It can be used by electric models of all brands compatible with the European standard Type 2 variant of the widely used Combined Charging System (CCS). It promises charging times of less than three minutes for the first 100km range.

The charging capacity of the new "FastCharger" is three to nine times as high as what is currently available via DC rapid-charging stations. Increasing the available charge capacity to up to 450kW considerably reduces the charging time, in turn increasing the number of vehicles able to use the technology in a given space of time.


Ok, it's not the technology since that was something I was pretty sure already existed, it's the setting up a distribution of charging stations and franchising that out.........and making it pretty universal as well across brands - eventually going to have to be a standardization to make this useful to all if ther's going to be a future.
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Re: Seen in Print

Postby HONDO74 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:15 pm

Electric Vehicles are going to happen even if people don't want them. A lot of things will have to be worked out for them to be more acceptable. I wouldn't mind having one myself even with the present limited range just for all the short trips I take.

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Re: Seen in Print

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:27 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
It does and then it doesn't - oscillates with party and money at stake. Gov't is probably not the best leader on this activity.


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