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Re: Whatzit?

Postby chuck » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:23 am

Foxglove? That's the only one with the toxins and overall shape.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:31 am

Not foxglove although one of its color variations is the color of foxglove.

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If you google search on the above image your will discover one of the common names for Kalanchoe.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:48 am

Now, those flowers look sad, or more likely are protecting themselves from the intense desert sun, huh.

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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:17 am

Very perceptive Murph, they are sad because they cannot make viable seed--they will have no babies.
In some Kalanchoe species, there are no male plants. I dissected one of the flowers to see if that was the case with these.

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Each flower has eight anthers and a style with a split end, no stigma. The female part of the flower is missing a vital part. This kalanchoe can't produce viable seeds.

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Re: Whatzit?

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:35 am

But isn't the white powdery-looking stuff sperm?

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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:18 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:But isn't the white powdery-looking stuff sperm?

Not exactly, it is pollen grains.

Flowering plant sperm cells cannot move on their own. To reach another flower they are contained within pollen grains. Flowering plants rely on some form of transportation, like a pollen trolley or maybe a bee to transport the pollen grains. For example, a bee lands on a plant to collect the nectar. Some pollen will get stuck to the bee. The bee moves on to another plant and the pollen falls onto that plant's flower. The sperm still can't move anywhere on their own. If, perchance, the pollen lands on the stigma of a flower of the same species, a pollen tube grows from the pollen grain, through the style, and into the ovary. The sperm still can't move on their own so the pollen tube moves the sperm down the pollen tube and into the ovary which contains the ovules. Fertilization occurs when one of the sperm cells fuses with an egg inside of an ovule.

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My kalanchoe flowers have no stigma, only the style leading to the ovary. The style itself seems to be split into 4 ends without stigma. No stigma = no pollen tube = no baby plants.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:36 pm

WHAT is this coming down the hill?! :shock:
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby robert. » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:34 pm

A wind turbine blade.
Look up how peanut flowers pollinate. It's a reverse process.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby chuck » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:38 pm

Based on the road signs, the hill appears to be in Canada? Probably Western Canada, Alberta. A megaload of a piece of oil sand refinery equipment?
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:41 pm

No, not related to the power industry.

Peanuts plant themselves after the flowers are pollinated, I think it is called pegging. That is a little strange but stranger still is that they can reproduce from the flower with no help from any pollen. The peanut flower fuses an egg with another egg in order to produce a complete set of chromosomes (no sperm required.) That is not the opposite of Kalanchoe, which produce baby plants without the help of flowers, eggs or sperm. They grow plantlets on the leaves. When ready the baby plants fall to the ground and form a carpet of new Kalanchoe. So many babies that the Kalanchoe's nickname is, "Mother of thousands."

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Baby Kalanchoes growing from Kalanchoe leaves.

No, not related to the oil industry.

The thing was made in Tucson.

Here it is a piece of it at 6th and Warren in Tucson.

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Re: Whatzit?

Postby chuck » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:21 pm

The UA stadium is at that location but so is the telescope mirror fabrication lab, under the east side. Actually the Richard Caris Mirror Lab. Telescope mirror

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-education/2017/11/13/university-of-arizona-worlds-largest-telescope-mirrors/840730001/

BTW, is that what you no passing signs look like? I've never seen one like that in the states, just in Canada.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:05 pm

chuck wrote:The UA stadium is at that location but so is the telescope mirror fabrication lab, under the east side. Actually the Richard Caris Mirror Lab. Telescope mirror

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-education/2017/11/13/university-of-arizona-worlds-largest-telescope-mirrors/840730001/

BTW, is that what you no passing signs look like? I've never seen one like that in the states, just in Canada.


Close enough, the Whatzit image is of the LSST mirror (same size as one of the seven Magellan mirrors) in Chile making the final part of its trip from Tucson to the El Peñón peak of Cerro Pachón in northern Chile. The "No Passing" signs are in Chile.

The image in Tucson is of the bottom half of the inner shipping container for the LSST mirror. Once the mirror was placed on the bottom half, the top half was placed over the mirror and fastened to the bottom half. Then the inner container was placed in a sealed shipping container. Next the integrated assembly was taken to Houston to be loaded on a freighter to Chile. The Whatzit image is the complete shipping container. I think it strange that the Chilean transportation company loaded the thing so it is as wide a load as possible.

Here at the U of A mirror lab, they use a vacuum lift system to pick up mirrors and place them in shipping containers.
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Note the blue polymer protective coating that will be removed when the mirror reaches the LSST site.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby robert. » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:12 am

Are you sure your bottom photo is in the USA? There is a USA dot law. No wide load moves at night.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:03 am

robert. wrote:Are you sure your bottom photo is in the USA? There is a USA dot law. No wide load moves at night.


The container is about 30 feet wide. Moves within Tucson were between 3 AM and 4 AM. Move out of state started at 3 AM. They had to park it at 7 AM when on the interstate roads.

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Re: Whatzit?

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:20 am

robert. wrote:Are you sure your bottom photo is in the USA? There is a USA dot law. No wide load moves at night.


Huh?

I see oversize loads at night all the time so that they avoid dealing with traffic and never during rush hour periods
7:00 – 9:00 a.m. and 4:00 – 6:00 p.m. weekdays
anywhere.

Moves within Tucson were between 3 AM and 4 AM. Move out of state started at 3 AM. They had to park it at 7 AM when on the interstate roads.


That's what I do see and they are pulled off on the side of the road until traffic is light.
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