Seen in Print

[MurphOnMillerAve]

No, overly active imaginations, that need rest, are inside our heads, having recreation. Maybe. I think. Sort of.

[rogruth]

No, overly active imaginations, that need rest, are inside our heads, having recreation. Maybe. I think. Sort of.

Ya know, Murph, ya could be just a little bit right.
I hope some of that never gets out of some of our heads because we would then sorta different from how we are now.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

No, overly active imaginations, that need rest, are inside our heads, having recreation. Maybe. I think. Sort of.

Ya know, Murph, ya could be just a little bit right.
I hope some of that never gets out of some of our heads because we would then sorta different from how we are now.

Actually, I think we may be experiencing a plague of escapees from inside of some folks' heads..........

[webenda]

This has piqued my interest in what Wayne thinks about such "entities" and about ghosts. Actually, I am interested in what everybody here might care to say about such "concepts," if that's permissible to ask.

Demons are angels, there are no ghosts. Do you want to take this over to "Question" ( viewtopic.php?f=1&t=16904&start=1440 ) or discuss it here?

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Naw. Never mind. I lost my interest.

[webenda]

Naw. Never mind. I lost my interest.

Too late. The following information is seen in print in the Bible.

Demons

Invisible, wicked spirit creatures having superhuman powers. Called “sons of God” at Genesis 6:2 and “angels” at Jude 6,

Genesis 6:1-2 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
6 When people began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that they were fair; and they took wives for themselves of all that they chose.

Jude 6 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
6 And the angels who did not keep their own position, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains in deepest darkness* for the judgment of the great day.

NOTE-Angels are sons of God. Adam was also a son of God. All humans after Adam are Sons of Man.

Ezekiel 3 King James Version (KJV)
3 Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, eat that thou findest; eat this roll, and go speak unto the house of Israel.

Angels were not created wicked; rather, they were angels who made themselves enemies of God by disobeying him in Noah’s day and joining in Satan’s rebellion against Jehovah.—De 32:17; Lu 8:30; Ac 16:16; Jas 2:19.

*Deepest darkness, called the abyss, a place shut off from God's light.

Luke 8:30-31 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
30 Jesus then asked him, “What is your name?” He said, “Legion”; for many demons had entered him. 31 They begged him not to order them to go back into the abyss.

God teaches us through his word in the Bible that Demons can possess people. Legion was a man possessed of many demons. He wasn't exactly tickled inside by them.

[webenda]

Ghosts

It is so common for people to feel the spirit world around them, I am glad Murph asked about this. The only way I know to find the truth about spirits around us is to ask God (who else could really know?) How do we ask God? Through prayer and reading His word found in print in the Bible.

Examples of Famous People Who Talked to the Dead

In his diaries, W. L. Mackenzie King, prime minister of Canada for over 20 years, claimed to receive such revelations. The Toronto Star of January 3, 1979, explains:

“His visions and seances kept him in touch with his long-dead adored mother, with Hitler and with United States president Franklin Roosevelt, among others.

All his ‘conversations’ and ‘visions’ were recorded in his diaries.”

James Albert Pike, a prominent Episcopalian bishop during the 1950’s and 1960’s, also received revelations from ‘another world.’ The communications, achieved with the assistance of a spirit medium, were reputedly from his dead son, Jim.

Evidently, communications are being received from somebody. But they are not being received from the dead! The Bible is very emphatic about this when it says: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all.” (Eccl. 9:5) Death is not a transition from life here to a life beyond.

Who, then, is responsible for these revelations from ‘another world’?

Demons, Promoters of First Lie

Do you recall what God told the first human pair would be their penalty for disobedience? “You will positively die.”

But “the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, the one who is misleading the entire inhabited earth,” told Eve: “You positively will not die.” (Rev. 12:9; Gen. 3:4) In view of this, should it really be surprising that the rebel angel Satan, and those angels (demons) who joined him in rebellion against God, would promote this lie?

They have done this by teaching that, at the death of the human body, the “soul” lives on in a spirit realm. To support this, they provide sorcerers, spirit mediums and fortune-tellers with special knowledge that seems to originate with the departed souls or spirits of the dead.

God Protects His People

Deuteronomy 18:10-12 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
10 No one shall be found among you who makes a son or daughter pass through fire, or who practices divination, or is a soothsayer, or an augur, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who casts spells, or who consults ghosts or spirits, or who seeks oracles from the dead. 12 For whoever does these things is abhorrent to the Lord; it is because of such abhorrent practices that the Lord your God is driving them out before you.

Leviticus 19:31 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
31 Do not turn to mediums or wizards; do not seek them out, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God.

Leviticus 20:6 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
6 If any turn to mediums and wizards, prostituting themselves to them, I will set my face against them, and will cut them off from the people.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

10 No one shall be found among you who makes a son or daughter pass through fire, or who practices divination, or is a soothsayer, or an augur, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who casts spells, or who consults ghosts or spirits, or who seeks oracles from the dead. 12 For whoever does these things is abhorrent to the Lord; it is because of such abhorrent practices that the Lord your God is driving them out before you.

That all does imply that such things are in fact possible as well,

[Rufus T. Firefly]

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Apparently, you knew your 70's well.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Apparently, you knew your 70's well.

And Wendy's,

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Apparently, you knew your 70's well.

And Wendy's,

What? No White Castle square wads?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Apparently, you knew your 70's well.

And Wendy's,

What? No White Castle square wads?

Not where I lived.....

[Roy]

[MurphOnMillerAve]

And Wendy's,

What? No White Castle square wads?

Not where I lived.....

So you've never taken Rt17 or Rt3 or Rt 46 into NYC , then, huh? Lucky man.