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Re: Stephen Hawking warned of future

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:56 pm

chuck wrote:Rufus said

Less worried about that and what we have today as AI is a very long way away from a self-aware machine consciousness.


I don't know that it needs to be self aware to be dangerous. It just needs to be able to manipulate the environment directly and then be given ambiguous instructions or instructions/parameters that may not be fully understood by the parties issuing them. Parents do this with young children all the time. :mrgreen: aka I didn't mean for you to do that!


Then we are writing about 2 different sorts of AI and two very different sets of problems - what you have described is something we've had forever - human error or in today's parlance ID-10-t user errors.
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Re: Stephen Hawking warned of future

Postby chuck » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:48 pm

Technology has made it far easier to implement and too difficult to correct when something goes wrong, e.g. Airbus autopilots.

I suspect that the search for AI is driven by recognition of the severe shortage of the real thing.
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Re: Stephen Hawking warned of future

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:28 pm

chuck wrote:Technology has made it far easier to implement and too difficult to correct when something goes wrong, e.g. Airbus autopilots.


The internet is proof that a single person can totally screw up everything.

I suspect that the search for AI is driven by recognition of the severe shortage of the real thing.


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Re: Stephen Hawking warned of future

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:08 pm

Are we alone in the Universe?

What would Stephen Hawking have replied?
What would Carl Sagan have said?

What do the major religions of the world have to say about the question?

What do you say in reply to the question?

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Re: Stephen Hawking warned of future

Postby HONDO74 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:31 pm

Since the beginning of humans we have always been explorers. We are the only ones and it is our destiny to propagate the universe. :mrgreen:

We are free to choose whatever we want but we are not free to choose the consequences of our actions.... :wink:

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Re: Stephen Hawking warned of future

Postby E7 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:03 pm

Are we alone in the Universe?

MurphOnMillerAve wrote: I thought I just saw a bear! We're not alone! :D

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:What would Stephen Hawking have replied?

He wouldn't....he had ALS and could not speak.

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:What would Carl Sagan have said?


Imagine if you would, billions and billions!

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:What do the major religions of the world have to say about the question?


Pox on you, Yankee infidels!

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:What do you say in reply to the question?


Let's go have a couple a brews and discuss it! :mrgreen:

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Re: Stephen Hawking warned of future

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:05 pm

:P :?

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Re: Stephen Hawking warned of future

Postby E7 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:05 pm

HONDO74 wrote:Since the beginning of humans we have always been explorers. We are the only ones and it is our destiny to propagate the universe. :mrgreen:

We are free to choose whatever we want but we are not free to choose the consequences of our actions.... :wink:



You've been watching too much Star Trek! :mrgreen:

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Re: Stephen Hawking warned of future

Postby HONDO74 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:24 pm

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HONDO74 wrote:Since the beginning of humans we have always been explorers. We are the only ones and it is our destiny to propagate the universe. :mrgreen:

We are free to choose whatever we want but we are not free to choose the consequences of our actions.... :wink:



You've been watching too much Star Trek! :mrgreen:


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Re: Stephen Hawking warned of future

Postby up148 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:18 am

Amazing how many sci-fi books and movies become reality in the future.

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Re: Stephen Hawking warned of future

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:36 am

Think: Ezekiel.

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Re: Stephen Hawking warned of future

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:58 am

up148 wrote:Amazing how many sci-fi books and movies become reality in the future.

BH

Like: "Brick Bradford"? "Captain Video"? :wink:
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Re: Stephen Hawking warned of future

Postby chuck » Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:03 pm

On one hand I wish we did have flying cars like the Jetsons. Then I remember how bad most people are with just regular driving.

I think I'd have to move to an abandoned missile silo (assuming it could be decontaminated) to not have to worry about the debris raining down from the flying demolition derby that would be almost a certain-tee.

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Re: Stephen Hawking warned of future

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:48 pm

I'm pretty sure that I saw in the News just yesterday that a manufacturer is ready to produce exactly that - a flying car that easily transfers from one mode of transportation to the other, with availability being two years from now . In fact, the report made the point that drivers of such car-planes would need both a driver's license as well as a pilot's license.

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Re: Stephen Hawking warned of future

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:59 pm

chuck wrote:I think I'd have to move to an abandoned missile silo (assuming it could be decontaminated) to not have to worry about the debris raining down from the flying demolition derby that would be almost a certain-tee.


Pretty sure that some abandoned missile silos have been turned into housing.....

I'm pretty sure that I saw in the News just yesterday that a manufacturer is ready to produce exactly that - a flying car...


Yes, seem to recall that was Toyota, but it was years away from actual production for the public. Think of the compliance issues involved on such a thing let alone the licensing...
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