How Stupid Are They?

[CWBurfle]

In my neck of the woods, most gardening, tree work, lawn maintenance and construction is done by US Citizens. Same for people working in restaurants and fast food.

[rogruth]

Does this vary in different parts of the country?

[robert.]

Yes Roger it varies. Last year Asplundh was hit with a 95 million dollar fine for hiring undocumented workers.

[rogruth]

I didn't make the question clear. Sorry. I'll try again.
Is the problem of finding U.S. citizen workers about the same over the country and does it vary by the type of work?
I'm not sure that's any better.

[up148]

In the OKC area most lawn crews are Hispanic. Also Hispanic and Middle East has taken over many building trades. What part of the country do you live in CW?

BH

[HONDO74]

Here is something a little different. Before the end on the Vietnam war and Saigon fell the Vietnamese that had money were leaving for the USA as fast as they could. They were coming in through the El Toro marine base and being resettled in the area. Being that they had money and apparently lots of it they started buying small businesses in the area where I lived in Garden Grove. Garden Grove and the surrounding area in known as Little Saigon.

Before we left at the end of 1979 for the midwest I couldn't read half the business signs on Garden Grove Blvd
Little Saigon, Orange County
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Sa ... nge_County

Our government brought them here. If they had stayed in Saigon the Viet Cong would have killed all of them. A lot of them were professional people and business people in Saigon. The later ones that got here were know as the boat people. They didn't have a lot of money but they would have been killed also. We were responsible for them because we Fkd up their country with our stupid war.

I am not saying one way or the other about it. But I will say this. Anyone who would let their dogs or cats run loose would never see them again.

[CWBurfle]

What part of the country do you live in CW?

Upstate NY

[MurphOnMillerAve]

What part of the country do you live in CW?

Upstate NY

Ever shopped here? That's "Froggie" in the blue shirt...

[Roy]

Anyone who would let their dogs or cats run loose would never see them again.

Of course, I'd heard about some Asians eating dogs, but cats?

I watched a show about a place in Mexico where the dogs are all allowed to run free during the day. They even put cameras on them, to see where they went, and what they did. The dogs were very well-mannered towards people, in making their way to their hang-outs.

[v8vega]

In my neck of the woods, most gardening, tree work, lawn maintenance and construction is done by US Citizens. Same for people working in restaurants and fast food.

100% illegal alien in southern Calif.

[HONDO74]

In my neck of the woods, most gardening, tree work, lawn maintenance and construction is done by US Citizens. Same for people working in restaurants and fast food.

100% illegal alien in southern Calif.

Well certainly, Calif is a sanctuary state. And now that "Mary-Wana" is legal they need all the gardeners they can get.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

In my neck of the woods, most gardening, tree work, lawn maintenance and construction is done by US Citizens. Same for people working in restaurants and fast food.

100% illegal alien in southern Calif.

Just a wee bit of exaggeration,

[MurphOnMillerAve]

The gentleman operating this machine and conducting the overall trunk-removal procedure is Hispanic. I didn't ask for credentials or his country of origin.

I have noticed an up-tic in Hispanic workers among those who have been coming to our property, via a known and recommended contractor, hired to tackle the projects involved in revitalizing our entire yard this Summer, and for me that has been a plus. Actually, I prefer their presence and work on the property.

Frankly, I haven't met an Hispanic person I wasn't glad to have become acquainted with, or to have become friends with. In fact, when my wife and I were still affianced, we personally helped rescue a Guatemalan young man (See the movie, "El Norte," for what his mother and sisters had to endure to escape what awaited them after the father, a Chief of Police, there, had been assassinated while driving his motorcycle) from what threatened him in Guatemala.

I was prepared to drive to Guatemala, if possible and if necessary, to rescue him personally. However, as it turned out, he was able to fly here, with legal entre, get a Green Card, and work through the entire process of becoming a citizen, with us accompanying him on several official visits to the nearby Federal Building to have his various hearings and, finally, to sit in front of a judge and have him granted citizenship.

He was hired everywhere I recommended him for a job, and he eventually became a person of some importance in Florida, as a businessman and executive.
Murph

[Rufus T. Firefly]

The gentleman operating this machine and conducting the overall trunk-removal procedure is Hispanic. I didn't ask for credentials or his country of origin.

I have noticed an up-tic in Hispanic workers among those who have been coming to our property, via a known and recommended contractor, hired to tackle the projects involved in revitalizing our entire yard this Summer, and for me that has been a plus. Actually, I prefer their presence and work on the property.

Frankly, I haven't met an Hispanic person I wasn't glad to have become acquainted with, or to have become friends with. In fact, when my wife and I were still affianced, we personally helped rescue a Guatemalan young man (See the movie, "El Norte," for what his mother and sisters had to endure to escape what awaited them after the father, a Chief of Police, there, had been assassinated while driving his motorcycle) from what threatened him in Guatemala.

I was prepared to drive to Guatemala, if possible and if necessary, to rescue him personally. However, as it turned out, he was able to fly here, with legal entre, get a Green Card, and work through the entire process of becoming a citizen, with us accompanying him on several official visits to the nearby Federal Building to have his various hearings and, finally, to sit in front of a judge and have him granted citizenship.

He was hired everywhere I recommended him for a job, and he eventually became a person of some importance in Florida, as a businessman and executive.
Murph

Oddly enough not everyone in or from Mexico and Central America is a criminal, rapist, drug dealer, etc...........

Murph, you also seem to possess a reasonably good judgement of the character of folks and are willing to help where you believe it to be warranted. A good soul.......

[MurphOnMillerAve]

…. Before the end on the Vietnam war and Saigon fell the Vietnamese that had money were leaving for the USA as fast as they could. They were coming in through the El Toro marine base and being resettled in the area. Being that they had money and apparently lots of it they started buying small businesses in the area where I lived in Garden Grove. Garden Grove and the surrounding area in known as Little Saigon.

Before we left at the end of 1979 for the midwest I couldn't read half the business signs on Garden Grove Blvd
Little Saigon, Orange County
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Sa ... nge_County

Our government brought them here. If they had stayed in Saigon the Viet Cong would have killed all of them. A lot of them were professional people and business people in Saigon. The later ones that got here were know as the boat people. They didn't have a lot of money but they would have been killed also. We were responsible for them because we Fkd up their country with our stupid war......

That's an important perspective and information for me to have learned, HONDO. Speaking for myself, only, Thank You, for the effort.