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[Rufus T. Firefly]

.... As for safety, very little is "safe" and I'm not sure anything is truly 100% safe. For example, consider this forum.....

Consider this forum, indeed. Do tell us what you have considered regarding MTJ and such factors as safety and being safe> Please.

The point is that we really have no idea of what security exists here and any/all of our personal info is protected in an unknown manner, and that we just trust in...........that nothing malicious occurs. We don't know and we trust blindly....and that would be true on all forums, etc.

Frankly, I've come to think I post too much personal material and yap too much.

That would be entirely at your discretion.

[up148]

We can only post as much as we feel comfortable and consider where we are posting. We can't bury our heads and never participate, but a little common sense goes a long way on the internet. You have to weigh your risk factor, against your enjoyment factor and hope you make the right decision.

BH

[Rufus T. Firefly]

We can only post as much as we feel comfortable and consider where we are posting. We can't bury our heads and never participate, but a little common sense goes a long way on the internet. You have to weigh your risk factor, against your enjoyment factor and hope you make the right decision.

That's pretty much the case.....balance.

[HONDO74]

Just to elaborate a little more about FaceBook. As Rufus said earlier. Its all about the "money"

FaceBook does not have a physical product to sell (like an Apple IPhone) What they have is the user data (info) about their 2 billion users. Advertiser pay for that information.

Facebook announced on Jan. 27 that its revenue reached almost $18 billion last year, representing more than 40% growth over 2014. It also made almost $4 billion in profit last year, as its user base grew to 1.6 billion monthly active users.
Worldwide, the average Facebook user generated almost $12 in revenue for the company last year—mostly from advertising. But it was dramatically higher in the US and Canada, where the ad market is most lucrative, than other regions.

This statistic shows the number of full-time Facebook employees from 2004 to 2017. As of December 2017, 25,105 people were employed by the social networking company, up from 150 people in 2006. In 2015, total key executive compensation amounted to 64.3 million U.S. dollars. Key executives of the company include CEO and founder Mark Zuckerberg, as well as COO Sheryl Sandberg, and CFO David Wehner.

What do all these employees do. ??? They develop platform tools to enable advertisers to target users with product ads they think those users will be interested in buying.

Malicious ???
Facebook said Wednesday that “malicious actors” took advantage of search tools on its platform, making it possible for them to discover the identities and collect information on most of its 2 billion users worldwide.

The revelation came amid rising acknowledgement by Facebook about its struggles to control the data it gathers on users. Among the announcements was that Cambridge Analytica, a political consultancy had improperly gathered detailed Facebook information on 87 million people, of whom 71 million were Americans. The purpose was to target those users with political BS.

Anyone who comprehended how those platform tools worked could take advantage of FaceBook user data.

[up148]

Good info Hondo. That's why I said users deserve what they get. If they took a few minutes to read this information, instead of whatever they do on FB, they might not stay. But, it's still very discouraging that so many people use this media and think it's so wonderful.

BH

[Tom Dempsey]

Anyone who comprehended how those platform tools worked could take advantage of FaceBook user data.

And did!

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Very, very interesting to me that subsequent to replying to BH's remark about Linked-in, I got an e-note from Linked-in ("You have three invitations waiting for you,") just now, another invitation to "check-in". Coincidence?

"Check out what you missed from John and two others," it goes on to state.

[Tom Dempsey]

Big brother is always watching you Murph, however, I understand your concerns and will bring them up at the next regularly scheduled meeting of the Tri-Lateral Commission.

[webenda]

How many people here are on "Linked-In", the business media for professionals? Seems like it isn't too hard to post your information with them and I just can't imagine it's much safer than facebook or the others. Comments.

BH

I am. I signed up to endorse 3railjon when he retired the second time and wanted to find more work. In return for registering, Linked-in gave me phone numbers and email URLs of every one of my friends who ever put such things on any Google-owned site. Then Linked-in sent emails to those people requesting that they endorse me. I had to apologize to all of them for the unsolicited letters. I had no idea Linked-in was so invasive.

I have also received several job offers through Linked-in. Not a bad thing, but now that I am retired I don't have time to work.

"There is nothing right or wrong. Only thinkng makes it so."


Wayne can verify who said that first.

Why do you think I would know who said that first?

Perhaps it was HAMLET in Shakespear's "Hamlet"
Why, then, ’tis none to you, for there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. To me it is a prison.

And maybe Shakespear "borrowed" the phrase from someone else.

Very, very interesting to me that subsequent to replying to BH's remark about Linked-in, I got an e-note from Linked-in ("You have three invitations waiting for you,") just now, another invitation to "check-in". Coincidence?

"Check out what you missed from John and two others," it goes on to state.

I have mentioned before the BOTs that sign in to MTJ and record every word we post. Have you forgotten the BOTs? Let me refresh your memory.

Who or whatTF is "Google Bot" On this forum right now? "User browsing this forum..." seen at the bottom of this page.

Murph,

Google Bot is the spy bot I told you about in a previous thread. It records your every word and thought for the spy masters to sort through and sell your name to businesses that might turn a profit by aiming certain products your way. Do you remember you started removing your posts when I told you before? Futile effort (too late.) Big Brother is here and it is not the government, it is business.

Very profitable business it is too.

Google Founders Net Worth 2015
Sergey Brin: 34.3 billion USD ($39.2 billion as of February 2016)
Larry Page: 29.2 billion USD
Jeff Bezos: 46.7 billion USD
Mark Zuckerberg: 35.7 billion USD

Thank you, Wayne. It finally penetrated properly.

I think you need more penetration Murph. (That's a joke, don't get bent out of shape. I wouldn't tease you if we were not friends.)

Here is an example of what Google has on you concerning MTJ and Bears:

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The spy bots come in handy if I want to know what you deleted because your words are archived in google. Once in a while you start deleting your posts, than change your mind. You cannont delete the BOT's archive, what ever you post is forever recorded in someone's data base. I see the BING [bot} is recording what I am posting right now.

1984 has arrived though business interests, and we thought it would be the government.

1984 at a Glance. In George Orwell's 1984, Winston Smith wrestles with oppression in Oceania, a place where the Party scrutinizes human actions with ever-watchful Big Brother. Defying a ban on individuality, Winston dares to express his thoughts in a diary and pursues a relationship with Julia.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Thanks very much for the review, Wayne. It didn't occur to me to apply what you explained previously about Bots to the mere mention of Linked-in in a brief exchange of replies. I have a lot to learn.
Murph

[MurphOnMillerAve]

I have another question (I hope the Bots pick this up) regarding the amazing world we've been talking about.
This morning, I received a call from 757 - 922-1746. When I said, "Yes?" I got silence. If a caller is not going to engage in conversation or at least reply with a return-Hello, what is the purpoe of their making the call in the first place?!!!! It seems so stupid.

Anybody want to educate me about such silent calls.

When we Googled the number, we found "Unsafe Caller" for a whole series of numbers in that sequence , including one that only had the last digit different, with a "0" in the last digit place, but not the number I listed here ending with that "6".

It certainly wasn't the first time we have received such a call.
Murph

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I have another question (I hope the Bots pick this up) regarding the amazing world we've been talking about.
This morning, I received a call from 757 - 922-1746. When I said, "hello," I got silence. If a caller is not going to engage in conversation or at least reply with a return-Hello, whatviscthe ourpoe of their making the call in the first place. It seems so R-word stupid.
Anybody want to educate me about such silent calls. It certainly wasn't the first time we have received such a call.

Robot calls looking for you to say specific words, like "yes". Never say that word on the phone to anyone you do not know as it can be captured and used to authorize unwanted actions.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Oh dear. I answered by saying only, "Yes?" Then I used re-dial to try to get them but to no avail.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Oh dear. I answered by saying only, "Yes?" Then I used re-dial to try to get them but to no avail.

But you wrote, "When I said, "hello," I got silence. ".........

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Oh dear. I answered by saying only, "Yes?" Then I used re-dial to try to get them but to no avail.

But you wrote, "When I said, "hello," I got silence. ".........

I made a mistake in typing that greeting here on MTJ. My greeting meant Hello but was actually, "Yes?" Thanks for replying to me, and Thanks for your patience.
Murph