A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

[Roy]

Clean, modern design engine - except for the box headlight. Then, I notice the slide valves and Stephenson (inside) valve gear, and the inside-bearing trailing truck.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Clean, modern design engine - except for the box headlight. Then, I notice the slide valves and Stephenson (inside) valve gear, and the inside-bearing trailing truck.

20th Century! 22 E2c's were built by Schenectady in 1903

[Roy]

Yes, I need to be well-provisioned with Jell-O! And, don't think you can fool me, with that tomato aspic shit. My mother did that to me, several times.

[Roy]

20th Century! 22 E2c's were built by Schenectady in 1903

Yeah, I was guessing somewhere around 1900. But, PRR held on to old stuff longer, so it could have been later.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

20th Century! 22 E2c's were built by Schenectady in 1903

Yeah, I was guessing somewhere around 1900. But, PRR held on to old stuff longer, so it could have been later.

They moved pretty quickly forward in developing the E classes to get to the later E6's that most folks are familiar with in their models

[Roy]

But, it took them 11 years, to get to the point of batch-ordering them. That's kind of a long time, in steam loco years. Everyone else was working on Pacifics, by 1914.

[rex desilets]

PRR started investigating Pacifics in 1907 with an order to ALCO for an experimental.
Otherwise, PRR's insistence on simplicity included no more axles than necessary. Thus an Atlantic rather than a Pacific.
The E-6 outweighed many Pacifics and PRR roadbed & track were adequate for the loads imposed by 2 driving axles.
Notwithstanding, the K-4 was the near-final design after several others had been built, and K-4 production started in 1910.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

But, it took them 11 years, to get to the point of batch-ordering them. That's kind of a long time, in steam loco years. Everyone else was working on Pacifics, by 1914.

During which time the PRR went through the rest of the E series and then up through the E4,5,6 and then E6s and then even E7's.
At the same time they were developing the F class as a fast freight/pass engine that came and went in 20 years time supplanted by the evolution of the H classes from the basic H6 and the Pacific classes.

There were 153 K2 built in 1910-11; 72 K2a built in 1911-13 all converted to K2sa, skip over the K3, and then 425 K4s built by Baldwin and by PRR Altoona 1914-28. I don't think that the PRR was lagging behind in their development of Pacifics

[rex desilets]

Be careful, lest ye be taken to be a Foamer!!

[Rufus T. Firefly]

:D

Be careful, lest ye be taken to be a Foamer!!

I have little real interest in the PRR after 1920.

There is, however, an insane wealth of knowledge readily available to all.

[John Webster]

Those big drivered Atlantics are impressive. They were fast too. Great photo.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

Those big drivered Atlantics are impressive. They were fast too. Great photo.

My understanding was that it was those tall drivers that provided the speed, so the locomotives were usually (solely?) used to pull passenger consists, not freight. However, later, I heard they were put into service pulling freights during the waning days of steam. So, on my layout, I only have the Atlantics as the engines for passenger trains. Wasn't the same true of Pacific's ? I'd be curious to learn more about this from those of you who are more informed than I about these engines.

[rogruth]

Murph,
Is that you in the trench coat eating the ice cream cone?

If you have posted this photo before I had not noticed this person
so once again I found something I had not seen before.
Thatis why it is OK to repost photos.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Tionesta Valley Railway

[Roy]

Looks like it has two link-and-pin coupler pockets on the pilot, one above the other.