A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

[rogruth]

That makes sense. So probably no way.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

TVRR #3

[rex desilets]

Beautiful little loco. Does anyone have dimensions? This is what Bachmann should have built for the On30 market.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Beautiful little loco. Does anyone have dimensions? This is what Bachmann should have built for the On30 market.

It is 3' narrow gauge - I thought Bachmann did do a 4-4-0 in On30? Maybe not?

[rogruth]

The last Bachmann catalog I have is 2013.
There is an On30 4-4-0 on page 240.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

The last Bachmann catalog I have is 2013.
There is an On30 4-4-0 on page 240.

A quick inquiry through Google reveals many such engines

[rex desilets]

TVRR #3

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To my eye, the Bachmann version is graceless, especially with the relatively dinky boiler.
Would be good to at least get driver diameter so as to attempt to derive some scaled proportions.

[Roy]

TVRR #3

Looks sort-of like Sierra Railroad #3, the Petticoat Junction 10-wheeler.

Bachmann ought to be shot, for pursuing this On30 nonsense. How many 30" gauge railroads exist on the planet? Yeah, there are some mine trains, but nothing with equipment like Bachmann makes. Most of their prototypes are American three foot gauge. Would it really be so hard, to use proper On3 track?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

TVRR #3

Looks sort-of like Sierra Railroad #3, the Petticoat Junction 10-wheeler.

Bachmann ought to be shot, for pursuing this On30 nonsense. How many 30" gauge railroads exist on the planet? Yeah, there are some mine trains, but nothing with equipment like Bachmann makes. Most of their prototypes are American three foot gauge. Would it really be so hard, to use proper On3 track?

Not at all, but they effectively and successfully started and create their own product monopoly, and got a lot of folks interested in model RR'ing and then also in a larger and what has become a craftsman scale in significant proportions.

I suspect that if they had come out with On3 that the response would have been a collection of yawns and the only folks that would have even stayed awake would have been existing On3 modelers that would have been harshly critical of the lack of prototype fidelity.

They ducked that and have been highly successful selling the entire package.

[rex desilets]

Rufus is correct.

Who put a burr under your ***, Roy? I suppose your trains are all P48? If not sell all you have and switch immediately.

For the rest of you, Bachmann came out with On30 as an adjunct to Dept. 56 ceramic villages. Cute. Nicely proportioned 2-6-0. Bought a set. Also, the little trolley, that I set up with my brides's Dept 56 collection.

Guys noticed. You could use your HO track and switches instead of esoteric (cost, availability, the requirement to scratchbuild more than I, personally, like) On3 stuff. You could also adapt HO mechanisms to create your own motive power.
Been a logging enthusiast for years: I have, and have devoured, the entire set of Taber,et al, books on Pennnsylvania logging, but the cost and availability of On3 left the dream unactualized.
Then Bachmann released the Shay and the Climax and gave me, and others (a hell of a lot more folks) the chance to create some bit of steam-era logging.
Yep, the gauge is mostly wrong. So is Ow5.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Guys noticed. You could use your HO track and switches instead of esoteric (cost, availability, the requirement to scratchbuild more than I, personally, like) On3 stuff. You could also adapt HO mechanisms to create your own motive power.

Yup. Readily available power to go under whatever you could imagine, but just bigger so you could really detail, and see what you were doing.

Been a logging enthusiast for years: I have, and have devoured, the entire set of Taber,et al, books on Pennnsylvania logging, but the cost and availability of On3 left the dream unactualized.

Full set of those PA logging books can set you back quite a bit - the Casler ones were running ~$80 and up if you could find them not all that long ago - lot of $ for a paperback, but then the content in all volumes is hard to beat.

Then Bachmann released the Shay and the Climax and gave me, and others (a hell of a lot more folks) the chance to create some bit of steam-era logging.

I see a lot of modules - perfect intersection of size and visibility and impact. I almost turned everything around to that direction, but didn't and I'm not entirely sure that was the right decision.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Newport & Sherman's Valley RR Depot at Newport, PA

[MurphOnMillerAve]

That Newport station feels like a typical house from those days that has been extended, here-n-there. I also find it interesting, as details, how the tracks and brick sidewalk relate to the station precincts.

[Roy]

The real keys to the success of On30 are the RTR trains at popular prices. Previously, everything in On3 was either brass, or some sort of kit. They could've just as easily sold the mogul train sets with On3 track.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

The real keys to the success of On30 are the RTR trains at popular prices.

They were; prices have gone up quite a bit, yet I think still well within reach.

Previously, everything in On3 was either brass, or some sort of kit.

Nothing wrong with kits; maybe one of the better parts of model RR'ing used to be building your own stuff and maybe in O scale that's going to make a come back. The RTR China bubble burst years ago....

They could've just as easily sold the mogul train sets with On3 track.

Maybe so, bu t think that they would not have reached anywhere as wise an audience and market that they did by side-stepping the On3 label. Anyway, Grandt Line made a kit for converting that very engine to On3; my FiL had one that he had converted.